URGENT! Nut size for st184 1990 celica drive axle

[love ke70]

all the gear almar sells is impact sockets. genius brand. good shit
and trade tools are tossers, even if their prices are the best on power tools. dunno on sockets, or if the one down here has them.

[bajachris88]

where u work?
you know the roundabout for the pie shop, well off that roundabout take the exit before the highway entry. as if you were going to the pie shop, travelling that way it will be on your left, just a little way down
you should miss the almar sign, the place is a bit set back so you might miss it first time if your going too quick.
all the sockets are basically on the other side of the shop to where u walk in the door. im sure they will have what you want

I work at Lang's Building supplies

I think i know which road you mean. the same road that CSR and the Cobra shop is on? Will have a look cheers mate, greatly appreciated.

[bajachris88]

Hi i have the same socket problem bought my 30m socket from autobarn in Beenleigh. I burred the end of the nut on the 1990 Celica SX. I will try to make my socket deeper by turning it in the lathe at home. If it works you can borrow it. I live in Buccan
Jim

Thanx Jim. no worries mate

Will see if i need it, cause i might take it back to the workshop ... again. Cause i'm still trying to source a proper workshop manual and would be pulling things off blindly without it. I had a good father son conversation just then and he gave me his wisdom with the best directions...

But don't let that bring ya down folks cause all the info and tips you have given me i shall forward and print out and give to the fellas at the workshop so they know exactly where they should be looking. should be a quick fix then, + they got all the air tools and are the experienced pros in their field.

[love ke70]

yup, just near the gt40 place
workin at langs your not far from trade tools either.
or the wreckers
not that they can help u with a socket

[bajachris88]

tradetools boys tradetools, get a deep 30-50mm impact socket so you can use it with rattle guns too, indestructable.

I think the workshop you took it to are incompetent, who bought the hub assembly, if they did and it was damaged they have nfi about what they are doing, and if you bought it they still should have seen the wear in the hub....

Yea, its what i was thinking in the back of my mind. cause an inexperienced fella like myself could see this isn't right. this free play thing in the drive axle has a particular noise, and the wierd thing is every time i drive away from this place, its perfect, no noise, no nuffin, drives great (no noise having no free play that was obvious), but then it degrades to this... so its got my head all confused.

I been to these last guys twice now (City Suspension), was All About steering beforehand, and then Pedders before that in the last 4 (now coming to 5) weeks.

Pedders was my first destination. they did all their tests, all the results were 'possibilities', adding up to $2300 for the worst case senario of bent strut leg, rooted hub, bearing, ball joint, getting camber pins for correcting chassis bends when trying to adjust, wheel alignment, bushes (everything brand new, hub being genuine toyota $400 paperweight).

so i got a 2nd opinion. All About Steering & Suspension replaced the right hand bearing (which was wierd, but could have been carked from the previous owner which was understandable, cause i haven't owned the car for long), and a wheel alignment.

City Suspension just saw a 'loose driveshaft' as they called it. so they tightened it. But they didn't have time to have a good look and wanted to give me a result that would get me home, cause i didn't book an appointment, and it was on a saturday and they had a VERY rooted commodore they needed to fix asap. Was beautiful when i drove it out and home. but degraded in the next couple of days when i took it out to buccan in the hills with my mates.

Noise came back, I went back to City Suspension. booked it in this time. I haven't told them the previous people i had seen, but i told them to check ova what pedders suggested, (which so happened to be covered by the hub assembly they ordered and put together, all except for the strut leg). I drove it out, and it was beautiful...

But has degraded in a matter of a day. (did alot of driving though, got 100k's before it rooted itself again)

Its wierd though, the guys there at City Suspension seem to know what they are going, and seem to be very experienced, but it just hasn't come to a long lasting result.

[bajachris88]

yup, just near the gt40 place
workin at langs your not far from trade tools either.
or the wreckers
not that they can help u with a socket

haha Thats it... i haven't been to that wrecking yard yet... bet there would be some nice bitz and pieces in there

Be kool to grab a GT4 turbo setup hehehehe

Once i clear this issue first though

[love ke70]

they have alot of hyundais. not too much else tho...
maybe im being harsh.
its bloody big, alot of cars, good fun, its one of the few yards left that lets you in and you just go play

good luck with the car anyway mate

[bajachris88]

thanx mate

[BeRad]

yep, pedders is a rip off... if the driveshaft isnt shagged, point the finger at the hub.... did they check the tie rod end?.....

[bajachris88]

UPDATE.

contacted City Suspension today, that kinda play i was having in the drive shaft is suppose to be normal, they were saying, was about 7 mm play for lateral movement. You can't pull the shaft out, it stops as some point either way. fella said that was normal when the car is jacked up. if it was doing it while its on the ground, then i should be worried. (but it wasn't). so i was like... ok. Was intersting to have a chat. I'm not used to that kinda movement with the old vws i have tinkered with. Not that they had cv's during the 60s and earlier with the swing axle suspension.

But i cured the noise! the squeal (followed by ying yangs new issue which has me tripped out as to how it lead in from the original issue...)

The noise that starts as a click and leads to a squeel happened to be the sheet metal guard/cover behind the brake disk. It was distorted, either from the incident, or me changing the tyre in darkness at the corner of the street. i bent it back to what it looks like on the other side... wasn't that badly distorted... and now that noise has gone. It was rubbing on the outside rim... i couldn't work it out originally, but the polished mark on the wheel, and looking for any shiny marks around the hub assembly and brakes lead me to this SUCH SIMPLE problem .

but... now i got another issue... brakes...
the left hand side is grabbing and to some extent not letting go, therefore the car wants to go somewhat to the left acuse of the friction on one side, and it making a noise, making the disk WAY hot and leaving nasty indentations. I didn't get a chance to look at it. could even be just rubbish. I just dropped it off at hte workshop again cause i was still unsure and unconfident with the drive shaft (dropped it ova just in case), but atleast it doesn't seem to be any other major issues. But yea, its almost 100% i can feel it... its gotta be...

The fellas at the shop were compassionate about me having ot bring it back again after spending the money. They rekon my car is going to drive their mechanics mad with hte times they keep seeing it lol.

On good news, got my first cruise coming up this saturday with some dub boys and a buddy of mine who has a spare pod filter he wishes to donate to my ride i can't wait! followed by a sunday of pimping my mates bus (HUGE ASS COACH) we are fixing up and restoring!

[bajachris88]

yep, pedders is a rip off... if the driveshaft isnt shagged, point the finger at the hub.... did they check the tie rod end?.....

they neva said they did, but i'm certain they should have. all the guys i been to haven't said anything bad abotu the tie rod inregards to worn ends or bends or anything. which is sweet. Will see how it goes then guys... will keep yas posted to the end!

[bajachris88]

hmm.... metal plate though wouldn't solve the clunking noise on power on and off...

But to start from a click to a squeal (with the click ceasing after a while) would be caused by heat expansion i would assume/hope

[bajachris88]

hang on a sec.

is the drive axle suppose to be mounted solid to somewhere?

sure there is movement... but when jacked up... should i be able to move it away from the gearbox so that the nut on the outside of hte hub comes out with it?

[Dale]

Negative... is it missing the washer?

I think that might explain it coming loose, the clunking, and also why the socket wouldn't fit over the end of the thread

[The Witzl]

You do need a massively deep socket for undoing hub nuts!
I had to spend $30 on a 1/2" drive, deep, impact socket. It's seriously huge... like 3inches deep, and weighs about half a kilo.

You wont find this type of socket in your normal auto stores... i had to go to a tool specialist to get mine.