URGENT! Nut size for st184 1990 celica drive axle

[bajachris88]

the shaft is moving. the boots which cover the joints stay put but stretch and contract lengthways as you pull the shaft out and push the shaft in. the joints at either end look to be firm and still... Car still drives too... so the joints would still be attatched otherwise the diff would spin that side freely and ignore the other side still connected...

[bajachris88]

Haha, yea... wat else lol.

I hate ying yang... had such an excellent time last night... and now this lol.

This is quiet an interesting thread though. If it was a gearbox thing it would make sense as to why the suspension and steering places didn't pick up on it...

[BeRad]

The shaft spline is long enough to pull out more than 10mm and still have drive. On the weekend id just slip that shaft out and have a squiz a bit of exp.

Yep, if the shaft moves out of the box 7mm or so id just about bet that the c clip/washer is damaged or completely missing, and you say the cv joints are still fine and not sloppy so they shouldnt be the problem. Is the noise a clicking noise that sometimes gives feedback/pull on the steering wheel?

[Dale]

It's normal for the shaft to move a little, the joints however should not move

actually thinking about it with everything bolted up again there shouldn't really be any play in the shaft, the inner joints do have play in them but the outers don't.. so once everything's bolted up there's nowhere for it to move

I hope for your sake the C clip isn't lost inside your gearbox somewhere! You'll know it it's gone right away because it will slide straight out of the gearbox with no effort

[bajachris88]

There were two types of noises i got.... the huge rubbing one which i get from the shaft moving in and out... and a random loud click, which didn't pull on the steering wheel.

The click came first, and then came the huge rubbing one. the sheet metal cover ova the brake disk was distorted and rubbing on the wheel, so this could have added to it as well...

Spose this thing isn't safe to drive while its in this state ay?

Will get a better service manual and be able to fix up this issue asap hopefully. gotta find out where i can buy a better 30mm socket from that is deep enough to fit ova the end of the drive axle AND the nut together.

[BeRad]

the shaft cant come out, the clicking noise id say is the cv joint though, its just not bad enough to pull on the wheel yet... might be time for a new one...definately fix the moving shaft problem asap though.

[3sgte]

One potential reason for an axle nut coming loose is a bad hub/wheel bearing.

Typically, for this failure (repeated loosening of nut), the inner inner race of the wheel bearing has spun on the hub and worn a groove into the hub.

If this had happened, it would explain both the inability to keep the nut tight and potentially explain the noise as well.

It is a potential safety concern, you probably should get a pro to look at it.

[Dale]

He put a new hub on with a different ball joint and wheel bearing in it though

Where'd you get the socket from? As long as it's 1/2 inch drive it should fit over the end of the axle
Worst case scenario go to a decent tool shop and get a 30mm deep socket, or maybe even 1 inch drive

[love ke70]

chris
where abouts you located?
im in yatala, half way to goldie and theres a shop just up the road called almar engineering supplies blah blah
and they have all the sockets you could dream of

in fact, just thinking
i bought a deep 30mm socket from them.
most decent hardwares should have them, or ask around,they will point u in the right direction...

[3sgte]

He put a new hub on with a different ball joint and wheel bearing in it though

The "new" hub (presumably a whole knuckle assembly) was actually a used item.

If it was maltreated at any point, then there is the potential it got damaged.
Having said that, driving the vehicle around with a loose axle nut on that type of bearing is a good way to damage it.

Either way, the knuckle needs to come off and someone needs to have a really good look at that bearing.
If I am unclear, let me know, I will try to dig up a picture.

[bajachris88]

Hi guys.

I got the socket from autobarn. its 1/2 inch drive, just not deep enough to fit on all the way, so it just polishes up the end of the nut... which isn't good lol.

I am located at Edens Landing, pretty much beenleigh. I work at yatala too so i should be able to drop in easily to this place. sounds like a sweet joint.

Its intersting with the nut going loose. Thats what the other guys said the couple times before it has happened. Both those times i neva noticed it. This time, i see the free play but the nut is firm on and any more tightening and it will be too far in for the nut lock to fit firmly without rattling everywhere (cause it would be further away from the split pin)

Soz about this change of mind guys. I started this thread earlier today, and thought thats what it must be if i got this huge amount of slack. But now what some of you have said has we wondering whether or not it is the nut or the thingo that goes into the gearbox. (thingo, lol, told ya my terminology was bad haha)

[bajachris88]

rekon oldmac toyota would be able to straighten this issue once and for all? Do they even do repairs or just servicing?

don't wanna have to exceed 4 workshop visits in 5 weeks for the same issue , let alone all the money spent on strategies that haven't fixed the major issue I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but its just the inconvenience and time consumption. If it was a project car like the dub out back then it would be great, i wouldn't mind, but its a pity its my daily driver.

[love ke70]

where u work?
you know the roundabout for the pie shop, well off that roundabout take the exit before the highway entry. as if you were going to the pie shop, travelling that way it will be on your left, just a little way down
you should miss the almar sign, the place is a bit set back so you might miss it first time if your going too quick.
all the sockets are basically on the other side of the shop to where u walk in the door. im sure they will have what you want

[jim019bhx]

Hi i have the same socket problem bought my 30m socket from autobarn in Beenleigh. I burred the end of the nut on the 1990 Celica SX. I will try to make my socket deeper by turning it in the lathe at home. If it works you can borrow it. I live in Buccan
Jim

[BeRad]

tradetools boys tradetools, get a deep 30-50mm impact socket so you can use it with rattle guns too, indestructable.

I think the workshop you took it to are incompetent, who bought the hub assembly, if they did and it was damaged they have nfi about what they are doing, and if you bought it they still should have seen the wear in the hub....