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    Estranged Member Chief Engine Builder mullett's Avatar
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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    Cheers, it's something I'm looking at for sure, the main reason for the revival of this thread was to find out if the clutch I'm looking at will fit Rather than start a new thread...

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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    well i dont need the heavy gze flywheel on my gte, i'm sure something lighter would help it's performance. i used it because of the extra diameter.
    i have a 212mm ge flywheel, i spose with the correct clutch set-up it would still hold a considerable amount of powa.? or maybe i should look for something even lighter....

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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    Quote Originally Posted by feral4mr2
    well i dont need the heavy gze flywheel on my gte, i'm sure something lighter would help it's performance. i used it because of the extra diameter.
    i have a 212mm ge flywheel, i spose with the correct clutch set-up it would still hold a considerable amount of powa.? or maybe i should look for something even lighter....
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    Do a lightweight billet flywheel in that size and probably in the larger gze size too.

    I have the 20v size (212mm?) on order at the moment. Couldnt go to the gze size as it aparently doesnt fit in the t-50. This is going on a 4agte running gze management. Will post in here how it goes.
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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    I have a 20valve engine running a GZE LSD and am going to go for a 212 mm flywheel so I would be interested in hearing how it goes. Try Merridian Motorsport as I found them to be very helpful and knowledgeable on this subject. They can supply clutch discs for different size input shafts and the clutches have higher clamping load than the original or so I am told.

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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    I ran a lightweight 212 flywheel on my ZE, but I had issues with the steel plate lifting from the aluminium backing causing clutch slip. I put in a standard flywheel and the car was much nicer to drive. With the inherent throttle lag in a ZE due to the distance from the TB to the engine, I believe you need some flywheel mass to balance the system. That being said, my flywheel is still probably lighter than a standard ZE unit.

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    I now have Bens alloy flywheel, and personally i think the main problem was the original steel plate. The Fidanza units seem to have gone to a different type of friction material, which seems to be a lot more resistant to heat.

    Seems to be working well now.
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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    It wasn't the clutch issue I was talking about, the car just felt better to drive with the heavier flywheel.

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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    Quote Originally Posted by mullett
    Just to dig up a dead thread...Does a T50 and an E51 have the same input splies: IE can I use a clutch setup from a rwd 4A setup in my GZE AW11?

    Cheers, RM.
    No They do not. The T-50 shares its input spline size with the C-Series FWD Gearboxes, while the E-Series FWD/AWD gearboxes are the same as the W-5X series input splines. If you want to use a 212mm flywheel you should not have much problem getting a 212mm clutch disc with a w5x/e51 input spline as anyone who puts a w58 behing their 4AGE in a AE86 has to use one.
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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    Adding to Pyschofox's above comment. Several Hiace models (and probably Hilux etc..) came out with a 212mm flywheel and W5* box. So these clutch plates are available off the shelf.

    However I even got a hardcore 4puck 212mm->W5* clutch in about 4 days (don't see many of them in Hiaces). Just have a talk to a decent clutch shop.

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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    For the GZE a slightly light flywheel should be ok. You can do this by taking it to a clutch specialst and they can machine it slightly and should know how much to take off if you tell them its application. Also to stop slippage a stronger pressure plate might be required

    Ben - yeah the car was designed to have a flywheel at that weight to make it easier to drive all lightened flywheel cars are harder to drive and stall easily, but due to the lighter weight it will allow the car to rev up & down quicker.
    Last edited by limbo; 27-04-2006 at 02:21 PM.

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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    I've had the same clutch and flywheel on a 20v and it suited it perfectly, it wasn't as good on a ZE.

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    Default Re: 4A-GZE Flywheels.

    The clutch and flywheel is in. I havent wound it out yet, but it is difficult to notice the light flywheel around town using small amounts of throttle. The clutch itself feels much heavier. I will try and get an exact weight of the flywheel and see how it goes under WOT this week.

    No idleing or stalling problems.
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