2t not turning over

[merc-blue]

swapping out a 2T shouldnt take more than a arvo, if your current carbie is running better swap that over aswell, it may not be as good as it was on the old engine but it will be closer than a poorly tune old carbie thats been sitting there fo a while

[gianttomato]

I dare say that you have completely fucked your motor with it overheating 11ty billion times between Melb and Geelong.

The reason it won't start is because of lack of compression (not lack of spark). For the most part, the lack of compression will be due to a blown head gasket, but the overheating will have caused all sorts of other probs (cracked rings, out of round bores, etc).

If you replace the head gasket (and head - it'll be bent like a banana), there is a good chance this will be a gutless smokey piece of shit motor.

Replace the motor - it's actually an easier solution.

[weapon x]

yeah i think i will have to... might see if i can get an advance on my pay packet, as there is a 2tg i've been eyeing off for about 600 bux...

gf is annoyed, the 2tg comes with another body, and i got 3 already so i was told i wasn't allowed to get it till i got rid of an existing one... but now as luck may have it, the motor has blown up and buying the deal to get the 2tg may have to be done... hehehe...

might have something good come out of this after all..

but anyways, back to reality.... i got the mechanic coming over today, he's gonna do a compression test, tell me what you guys already know and i'll go from there.

[GasedT18]

Luckily for me though, I have an old man, who whilst not helpful in teaching me simple motoring mechanics, is very helpful when lending me his 95 mustang whilst my car is off the road. =)

Kid toasts his own engine, dad gives him the keys to the Mustang

Cool dad

You did tell him.......?

D

[weapon x]

LOL... yeah well, unfortunatley i can't keep ahold of the mustang the entire time... he likes to drive it apparently...

he's got a 77 mustang i could have borrowed on a more permenant basis, but its just short of being on the road, needs roadworthy and rego yet... woulda been nice though, it's got a 302 in it.

as for my own kettle of fish, the mechanic never made it around, suprise there... i pulled the spark plugs out and noticed that the second one down (from radiator end) has oil in it...

i swapped plugs around and nearly got the motor to turn over... could need new plugs to start and a charged battery could be nice, as the power pack was struggling... will do that tomorrow

[river]

Hi,

i swapped plugs around and nearly got the motor to turn over... could need new plugs to start and a charged battery could be nice, as the power pack was struggling... will do that tomorrow

Oil, eh? That doesn't sound good at all. Putting in new or cleaned plugs is, at best, a very temporary and crude extemporisation for what is (from your description of events) an ostensibly buggered engine.

seeyuzz
river

PS: That was my "big word" post for the night.

[weapon x]

got home late from work.. but i managed to buy some new spark plugs... threw them in and cranked it over... and eventually it started, but there was a tingy/clangy type of sound... so i turned it off and on, off and on... then let it sit, and hoped out of the car and took a look as what was going on... noticed some smoke (cigarette type) coming from the exhaust manifold area...

i turned it off, then on again, then the fan stopped spinning and began making a screetching sound as if the belt was loose... smoke continued from the same area... didn't sound too good...

so i figure if i'm wanting to inspect further i will need to replace the water pump and work out why it wasn't spinning... nice to get it started though...

didn't make sence that a head gasket or a cracked head wouldn't allow it to start, normally you can start it if it's cracked, just gets hot really quick...

which reminds me, i ran the car till it was warm the first time, no signs of overheating at that stage.

[weapon x]

looks like i may have solved my motor problems....

i'm buying a 2tg tomorrow, comes with twin solex carbies and extractors... for only 200 bux. =)

[GasedT18]

Good score!

Now don't forget to hook up the temperature sensor and use the green stuff and NOT WATER

D

[weapon x]

lol... will do... will definately use the coolant... =)

[river]

Hi,

Good stuff. The 2T-G is a sweet little engine that lends itself readily for power upgrading and, if treated right, is very robust and reliable.

If I was you, I'd get the cooling system flushed etc before you put it into your car. Just to be sure.

seeyuzz
river

[weapon x]

yeah, i've heard lots of good things about the twincams... very much looking forward to having it in...

i'm gonna be putting in another radiator at the same time...

was wondering if there is anything i should know before, during or after the installation...
do you think the power upgrade requires a brake or suspension/shock/swaybar upgrade?

gonna have the gf driving this car too, so it needs to be safe to drive....
she only learnt to drive a manual 6 months ago and still over-revs the motor abit.

[weapon x]

mechanic mate is taking longer than expected to get around to me, was meant to help me put in the 2tg this weekend but is now pushed back to the following weekend... (normally i'd do it myself, but he's got an engine craine and he has the knowledge on how to line up and bleed the clutch and hookup the carbies etc.... so i'd prefer he be there for a twincam...

but since im getting tired not having a car and the old man took his mustang back a bit ago...

i got to investigating the blown 2t... replaced the alternator and got the old girl running
went round the block a few times and went pretty good...

no smoke out the back and power was the same as before...
small sound coming from it however... going to disconnect the water pump when i get the chance and see if the sound stops or not... kinda like a muffled grinding sound.

will see how i go... if nothing else, it'll be a good shops & back car till my mate gets a minute to help put it the twincam in.

must say, i'm amazed at the motor... was overheated over 6 times... and was at a temperture of 100 or more for about an hour and a half... yet it still runs... there are other cars that would have collapsed under half the same conditions.

[EldarO]

when you put the new motor in, thoroughly flush everything (BHG coolant is really, really bad to put in a new motor).

and use toyota red coolant.

oh, and 2T's are cheap, i scrapped my last one after i couldnt be bothered selling it, ran well too!

Elmo.

[weapon x]

where do i get "toyota red coolant" from

why is bhg bad?... not exactly a "new" motor.... an old one re-transplanted

yeah i know they are cheap... so was this 2tg (200 bux)