[Guide] Corona/Peugot/Hilux Conversion with Height Adjustable Coilovers [56k DIAF]

["Z" UTE]

SillyCars, go back to the drawing board. T3 uppers are only really suitable for coilovers. No way are the T3 units designed to sit on top of a standard spring retainer.

And as far as I am concerned trying to get any adjustment out of camber tops whilst still using stock spring setup, is a waste of time. The minute you dial in any reasonably effective changes the bloody spring starts to bind in the tower.

cheers Chuck.

[SillyCarS]

SillyCars, go back to the drawing board. T3 uppers are only really suitable for coilovers. No way are the T3 units designed to sit on top of a standard spring retainer.

And as far as I am concerned trying to get any adjustment out of camber tops whilst still using stock spring setup, is a waste of time. The minute you dial in any reasonably effective changes the bloody spring starts to bind in the tower.

cheers Chuck.

sorry chuck i havent been the clearest have i

i am changing from stock to coilovers with adjustable camber tops

i simply kept one of the old struts set up so i can get dimensions correct

[SillyCarS]

ok, i shortened the screws and had a look

the result. it looks like she'll be sweet if i put a thicker washer on top of the needle bearing, then it should rotate smoothly. currently it mungs hard cos the bottom of the camber top has been recessed:



sorry for being a tard, i hope this helps folks in the future

[IN 05 NT]

you need a small spacer btween the top and the spring hat..... i'll get a pic of some s13 ones ive got sitting round, gimme a minute,

[IN 05 NT]

[SillyCarS]

thanks blake she's sweet

[SillyCarS]

quick trip to bunnings this arvo and problem solved



now shes sweet, rotates and no grinding. its not a perfect fit.. but meh

[MWP]

Are the washers sitting on the spherical bearing, or on the sliding plate?
Ive often wondered what is the correct way to do it... having the spring top sit on the plate or on the bearing.

I gathered it should be on the bearing so i made up a spacer so that my Noltec tops sit on the T3 adj top bearing.

[SillyCarS]

yeah just like you said mate, all i did was get a thicker top ring

its kind on the spherical bearing but i imagine when there is movement it will be on the sides of this

[IN 05 NT]

Are the washers sitting on the spherical bearing, or on the sliding plate?
Ive often wondered what is the correct way to do it... having the spring top sit on the plate or on the bearing.

I gathered it should be on the bearing so i made up a spacer so that my Noltec tops sit on the T3 adj top bearing.

needs to be on the bearing, as thats what allows you to turn the car......the struts have to move on that bearing as you turn....why there commonly refered to bearing plates also....

[SillyCarS]

thanks, but this is as good as its gunna get due to such a shithouse design by t3

i dont recommend them

[twentyEight]

They work fine with T3 Camber Plates, which is what they are designed for...

It's like trying to put a Ferrari engine in a Celica and saying that its a shithouse design because it doesn't bolt up to the W50!

[MWP]

needs to be on the bearing, as thats what allows you to turn the car......the struts have to move on that bearing as you turn....why there commonly refered to bearing plates also....

... which makes me wonder why T3 went to the trouble of making the spring seat with rollers which doesnt sit on the spherical bearing.
Why didnt they just use a normal spring seat with a spacer?

[af300e]

needs to be on the bearing, as thats what allows you to turn the car......the struts have to move on that bearing as you turn....why there commonly refered to bearing plates also....

The Mercedes mac strut setups that I have seen (and I have seen eleventy billion) don't let the shock rotate on the top bearing, rather the shock shaft is fixed and the shock housing rotates. This is much the same system as T3 have designed except the T# system is coilover.

The spherical bearings are actually seriously hard to rotate. They really serve only to allow the shocker to change angle during suspension movement.

Basically, it works perfectly well when the correct parts are used.

Another issue, having the spring load (as in load of the vehicle) on the spherical bearings, is that a super cool idea? Has anyone bothered to look up the max axial loading for these spherical bearings? If you can imagine the loadings that the bearing will be subject when hitting bumps, potholes etc, then imagine all that load being transferred through a piss ant bearing surface of approx 5/8ths of SFA, it doesn't really add up. I'd expect the bearings to fail far quicker in that situation.

Having the spring/vehicle load on the camber plate is probably a better design.

[MWP]

Another issue, having the spring load (as in load of the vehicle) on the spherical bearings, is that a super cool idea? Has anyone bothered to look up the max axial loading for these spherical bearings? If you can imagine the loadings that the bearing will be subject when hitting bumps, potholes etc, then imagine all that load being transferred through a piss ant bearing surface of approx 5/8ths of SFA, it doesn't really add up. I'd expect the bearings to fail far quicker in that situation.

Having the spring/vehicle load on the camber plate is probably a better design.

But all the load isnt on the spring seat, infact almost all the shock loading is going straight to the spherical bearing as its the damper which takes the shock loading, not the spring.
The spring really just holds the cars weight.