I really f#$ked up...

**sleepin22** · 19-12-2006, 07:42 PM

i'm no expert, but when the clutch disengaged its still spinning at the speed of the engine and from what eddie described its spinning at over 8,000 rpm??? if there was a balance issue somewhere maybe it could cause it. Like I said I'm no clutch expert, just throwing around some ideas.

**merc-blue** · 19-12-2006, 07:46 PM

As I said go talk to derry at BGT,
They have been doing clutches since before the TA22 was designed, he will be able to help if anyone can,

**shelldrake** · 19-12-2006, 07:56 PM

Thanks for all your input guys. Someone else I spoke to today also said that bgt were the guys to talk to...I think a custom job to suit my needs(Very thrashable) is what I require.

**jfallen** · 19-12-2006, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by merc-blue

If you get a rev limiter make sure its soft cut,

SOFT,

Pfft

**merc-blue** · 19-12-2006, 09:19 PM

LOL
go read about the pro/cons on a soft cut and then you will understand

**kme023** · 19-12-2006, 09:46 PM

Hey, my son has wrecked 2 exedy clutches, when we replaced the first one in his cordia (sorry i know its a mitsu) and it literally shattered, exedy came to the party after sending it to melbourne for assesment.
They declined any responsability when it went the second time.
I thought we were the only unlucky ones.
Can't remember off hand what brand he runs now but i think it was orange?
Cheers

**sleepin22** · 19-12-2006, 10:45 PM

I just think there is a better explanation. there must be a reason why one guy would go through clutches and another guy goes through diff's. Faulty gear cant always be the answer. There has to be a reason/cause.

**Rinmax** · 19-12-2006, 10:56 PM

Dude, you seriously have some bad luck. You are remembering to push the left pedal in when you change gears, right?

I hope Exedy give you support as surely it should have lasted longer. Maybe they should give you a steady supply for testing.

If you need a stock plate to get you by for a while I can help out as I have a few spare stock ones.

**shelldrake** · 19-12-2006, 11:07 PM

The car is going again - Sourced another clutch and replaced last weekend - Something does seem a bit amiss...Even with poor "skillz" I think they should last a while...

**sleepin22** · 19-12-2006, 11:08 PM

you should ask them to install a new one free of charge. then if it goes u can actually point the finger at them. But since u bought it off them and installed it yourself they have the upper hand. I'm not saying you dont know how to install a clutch Ed, its just how it is from their perspective.

**sleepin22** · 19-12-2006, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by shelldrake

The car is going again - Sourced another clutch and replaced last weekend - Something does seem a bit amiss...Even with poor "skillz" I think they should last a while...

is there a run in period for a clutch? I mean if there was surely you did enough (2k) km's to run it in, but maybe there is a certain way to do it. I dunno, just another suggestion. But yeah its too coincidental for me.

**EldarO** · 20-12-2006, 01:01 AM

run in is like, dont slip it like a bitch for 500k's

thats it.

sleepin, while the bastard is in neutral, the whole lot is spinning as one, while the clutch is in, only the clutch plate remains stationary while the flywheel and pressure plate spin around it.

im guessing the motors seen decent revs while in gear, while means the whole assembly would have to be balanced, otherwise it would be very noticable.

with the clutch in, the pressure plate and flywheel are all one unit, so i doubt that would see any failure either, just trying to get a grasp on the suitation, as to what might be happening to cause all this.

the only thing i can think of is that the pressure plate wasnt seated on the flywheel perfectly straight, and as the clutch is engaged/disengaed it overloads one part while the other part gets nothing, this again, points to faulty installation rather than a quality control issue.

not saying your inept at installing a clutch dude, shit happens.

Eldar.O.

**shelldrake** · 20-12-2006, 08:33 AM

Clutch and flywheel were balanced, as were crank, rods, crank pulley. When installing pressure plate, bolts were tightened 1 foot pound more than original torque spec, tightened in "star" order. I don't know what I could have fucked up. If I am missing something, someone please inform me... It may be worth mentioning now that the flywheel bolts were very loose(2 were hanging out about 8 mm), the rest were finger tight. Despite having used loctite threadlocker. I put this down to the assy being unbalanced after the strap broke. I still had to drive it back to the pit area despite it sounding like a dog...

Perhaps this could have influenced clutch failure...

**twentyEight** · 20-12-2006, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rinmax

You are remembering to push the left pedal in when you change gears, right?

Why do you need to do that?

You don't need to be able to open the clutch to change gears while driving... And, if you do it correctly, it doesn't hurt your box!