1JZ into EA Falcon

[mrshin]

Not naming any names but I have seen a certain contender crack some fairly notable pace in a variety of Falcons, in a variety of conditions, and stay well ahead of much more fancied contenders. Take an EA Falcon, throw in some suspension and wheels, and it is amazing how fast you can move the thing along a windy road. Until you run out of brakes and into something (2 or 3 corners will do this if you're a brake user), until it overheats or catches fire, or until any of a variety of things randomly fail. That is definately not to say that I think they're exactly my choice of car...

[o_man_ra23]

yeah i shit you not, it was on a cruize with www.aftermathmotorsports.tk
there was other cars on the cruize so its not like it was a straight road race, or a open road race, there was other cars to get around, but it still was like racing, and he said that he was racin, and then he said he couldnt get around me because his tyres were shit.

If i new haw to prove it, i would. but i gess you can say what you want cos i know what went down.

nuff sed.... you take a stock HSV and a stock EA... even tho i hate holden more than i hate ford, ill go the HSV.

Cheers, Owen

[Ta22boy]

Hey all,
Just on doing the conversion to a toyota engine as kool as it would be, i have seen and heard about a heap of fords with the later EB/ED (i think 4.0 or 4.1) straight 6 with turbo conversions running very fast times down the quarter, i just downloaded a XD running a 10 with this set up. And with a budget of 3/4 grand, you could prolly do it. Thats if you dont mind doing the same as many other people, just a thought even though i would love to see a worked 1/2JZ in almost anything... even a EA jk

Scott

[mic*]

So you mean twas lucky.

I beleive you then.

I think we all had this picture in our heads of an old EA blitzing a 6L down an open rd

[o_man_ra23]

Hey all,
Just on doing the conversion to a toyota engine as kool as it would be, i have seen and heard about a heap of fords with the later EB/ED (i think 4.0 or 4.1) straight 6 with turbo conversions running very fast times down the quarter, i just downloaded a XD running a 10 with this set up. And with a budget of 3/4 grand, you could prolly do it. Thats if you dont mind doing the same as many other people, just a thought even though i would love to see a worked 1/2JZ in almost anything... even a EA jk

Scott

Cmon Scott, you know as well as i do that the EB/D and EF/L 4.0's were a barge motor just like their 3.9 predecessors... cmon its single cam with hydraulic rockers FFS. Let alone all the monsterous amount of bottom end work needed to get the bastard up to scratch for a turbo. Plus they leak like seivs, just like the 3.9s. Go the 1JZ... more power from a 2.5L than you can get from a 4.0L for the same money for sure(just gotta put more boost into the 1JZ... itll handle up to twice the power, and the factory turbs should run about 14psi without a problem)

Cheers, Owen

[mic*]

I think that the logic of a 1J vs the "commonality" of the Ford has both motors being explored quite extensively for power.

Even tho they are crap, there are just way too many of them around to not find the odd example of someone who has done something half decent with a 4.0L ford.

[mrshin]

I've seen a couple of turbo'd Falcons that can cut some pretty decent numbers. Stock rods etc. are able to put up with a moderate amount of boost, just that none of the motor will take revs - not that you get or need revs. The low down torque you can get is great. However, as said, you will still have an engine that leaks, has cooling issues, does head gaskets, is tied to the worst collection of gearboxes ever created (almost), is...... ahff, I won't go on. Done properly, turbo Falcon motors can sure deliver the goods, but there are a lot of 'minor' issues to look into first.

[EldarO]

any engine can be made to do anything, provided you have time and money.

there is a 180sx running around with a 3RZFE hilux motor...

744 RWHP.

out of a truck motor.

Figure that one out?

Eldar.O.

[myne]

Well in that case...
Make me a 750kw 4age ;P

[EldarO]

give me a few hundred grand, and i will

Eldar.O.

[mrshin]

Formula 1 engines from the 80s: 1.5 litres, and making much more power than that. As well as surviving the race. It's all about fuel. Oh, and it's all about loooots of boost, too!

[myne]

I doubt anyone could get a 4age to rev to 18000 though

[mrshin]

Sure you could. Just there wouldn't be many Toyota parts left in it...

Think of it as similiar to the relationship between a Hemi and a top fuel engine...

[myne]

heh for that sort of revs it'd need carbon nanotube lattice conrods and probably surface-diamondised carbon honeycomb pistons.
The real hard part would be figuring out what bearings to use. I wonder how well diamond goes as a lubricated friction surface?

[mrshin]

If I was looking for those kinds of revs, I'd want something with about HALF the stroke of a 4AG. Hang on, then I'd be buying a bike engine!