1JZ into EA Falcon

[mic*]

Ok, comprimise to say it would be very difficult to make it have worse economy than the can. I dont think the savings would be worth phoning home about tho.

The sound of a nice 1UZ burbling under the bonnet of the Ford creature would be great, but i think the main problem id have is id keep closing my eyes while i drive, listening to it picturing a real car around it.

[o_man_ra23]

Is the motor in question carbie or the original EFI that appeared on some model EA's?
Being fairmont EFi i would think...

EA never came with carbie. You are thinking of the centre fire injection (looks like a carbie, and has same sort of air filter) which has already been stated as the current setup. Carbies are actually a better setup, more reliable and better on fuel than these crappy CFI's The more exuberant MPFI (multi point Fuel injection) that was used on the later EAs was also crap. The efi on the early 22REs was a better setup even without the oxy sensor. Just thought i would pass on some of my hard earned foulcan knowledge. Oh, and the XF 250 xflo MPFI was a better motor than any series of 3.9L

Cheers, Owen

[mic*]

Have just heard - no personal experience - the last carby motors are better than the first EFI (Ford). Also was told that the last of em were in early low spec EA's. Have seen what must be CFI on a friends car and thought that was an example of what i heard.

Obviously heard wrong.

[o_man_ra23]

nah, you heard something other than whats real. All EAs came with efi, whether CFI(looks like a carbie, has 2 injectors which are good for MP methanol injection) or MPFI. XF came with either a webber carb, or MPFI with 70mm TB(ive got a couple of these for later conversions ) But yeah, EA came with either 3.3L or 3.9L in the 6's, both of which were pussbarge motors, with the 3.3 being super underpowered (reminds me of 1X VB commo )

Cheers, Owen

[mrshin]

Ahh, the 'electric carb' CFI... Yes, it truly is awful. Remember these also used a smaller fuel pump than the mullet-point version, but the parts will swap straight over. One of the many great puzzles with these was the mullet-point inlet manifold - WHY of WHY did it curl upside down? Anyone who's ever tried to replace the coil/igniter/dizzy/starter (all frequent failing items...) would know what I mean!

Anyway, I won't get started, I've been near too many falcons lately...

1JZ will work provided you swap the diff to a later 4 pinion version, install 4.11 gears (2.77 - I can't really see what the purpose of it ever was?) (stock LSD is utter crap too... but hey), fix the fuel system, and use the Toyota auto. After having to do a bit of work with the bogwarmer 3 speed lately, nothing can begin to describe the passion with which I detest this box.

Also, do whatever you can with the handling and braking. You'll need to!

[o_man_ra23]

Good to see you feel my pain mrshin Dont forget that you need to use the correct dizzy for the correct application on the foulcans, as the mullet point dizzy wont work with the crap fire and viceaversa, even tho they look identical. And the ECUs are different. Neither fuel pump will supply a decent amount of fuel, thier both crap. For a JZ, youll need a decent pump, suggest aftermarket.

Cheers, Owen

[bezza05]

Ok i have finally got some time to actually type something other than read what others have said lol. Umm suspension wise a whiteline control suspension pack with springs, shocks, and roll bars has just been ordered.Looking into brakes. Interior wise apart from a saggy headlining it is near new. Exterior wise it has rust around the top of the windscreen that is only jst visable but has caused the windscreen to crack. The body and paint is perfect except for where my gran has hit a few things. It is a wonderful red. This is amazing given its spent its whole life opposite a beach.

Finally this is something that i want to and therefore will happen, but jst comes down to organisation and timing. Also mrshin i will pm or contact u when i get a free chance as i have a few questions

[Hurricane]

Hurricane... Monster boost till it blows up?? Itll blow up as soon as you think about doin that The 3.9 was the uber barge motor!! Nothing good could be said of these motors at all, the were heavy on juice, produced park all powah and wore out quicker than mick doohan's knee plates. I would say forget sentiments and get something real... but then again sentiments are sentiments, and you really should look very closely at what will break very soon(like everything). Oh, and the headlights wear out on the EAs quicker than you can say boo.

Cheers, Owen

yeah i gess, but my engine dosnt seem to use alot off fuel and for what it is it doesnt got to bad, or mabe how drives it last week end i race a Clubsport with a LS2 6 Litre down the Great Ocean Road and out the Back Way and raped it something Shockin and he said he was tryin

Anyways i love my EA. GO DA FUNCKY FORD

[o_man_ra23]

yeah i gess, but my engine dosnt seem to use alot off fuel and for what it is it doesnt got to bad, or mabe how drives it last week end i race a Clubsport with a LS2 6 Litre down the Great Ocean Road and out the Back Way and raped it something Shockin and he said he was tryin

Anyways i love my EA. GO DA FUNCKY FORD

You beat a 6Ltr HSV with a 3.9 PUS FRAUD?? I somehow dont believe that, cause HSV spends a bit too much more time building their crappy cars than ford does their crappy family hacks. Unless of course you have a 2JZGTE with JZA80 suspension, then its a differnt story, your EA POS could then win. But even in FUNTASTICALISTIC condition, the 3.9 was about as exciting as the 18RC(i love my 18R's, but i am realistic too)

Cheers, Owen

[SeptemberSquall]

yeah i gess, but my engine dosnt seem to use alot off fuel and for what it is it doesnt got to bad, or mabe how drives it last week end i race a Clubsport with a LS2 6 Litre down the Great Ocean Road and out the Back Way and raped it something Shockin and he said he was tryin

I like stories.

[EldarO]

I dont mind putting of the build for a little longer if it is required. I thought about a 7mgte but ive heard a few bad things about them. Maybe someone can advise if the are a strong motor. When it comes to the 1UZFE, it is an option but i would really like a turbo 6. Its a pity the later BA turbo 6 is so expensive as this would be a nice starting point as well.

Mrshin i will send u an email or pm soon.

Come to Perth, ill take you for a drive, and you'll change your mind.

Properly prepared, 7MGTE is one of the best bang-for-buck engines out there, they need a little bot for work in the beginning to get them nice and strong, but youll see when your die in one, they pull like an ox.

Im still getting used to driving a car that sounds/feels like a plane.

eldar.O.

[mic*]

You beat a 6Ltr HSV with a 3.9 PUS FRAUD?? I somehow dont believe that, cause HSV spends a bit too much more time building their crappy cars than ford does their crappy family hacks. Unless of course you have a 2JZGTE with JZA80 suspension, then its a differnt story, your EA POS could then win. But even in FUNTASTICALISTIC condition, the 3.9 was about as exciting as the 18RC(i love my 18R's, but i am realistic too)

Cheers, Owen

Unless he's already runnin "monster boost till it blows up"....

Cant be long now then

[Maverick]

Hey Champ, i did a 1jz conversion into a cressida, using a jzx90 halfcut. it was dirt cheap but really a halfcut is not as good to use as everyone makes out. for starters most motors come with loom,ecu and AFM if applicable. I used engine loom and computer and thats it. nothing else could be used as nothing was easily compatible so what the hell is going to fit from a toyota cut into an EA Falcon?. Also if swapping to a 1jz, you would be crazy to use a factory intercooler as they are crap and you can get a good one for <$200.

For example: Get a motor package with right sump location, $1500 for everything and gearbox whatever manual/auto set it in the engine bay and weld up some engine/gearbox mounts or get someone to do it. get tailshaft adapted to suit new gearbox and thats that engine is mounted. then get wiring and cooler piping/mounting done. hook up fuel and return line/s and adapt water pipes to suit falcon. It really is not as difficult as it seems, you just have to use your head. If you want more info, PM me

p.s. that would be a wicked car. imagine the look on ppls faces when you shit on worked, toyed r33 Skylines in a falcon

[Maverick]

And don`t use a 7m-gte... Its called "doing things the hard way" 1jz`s are a a better motor in just about every aspect. Theoritcally you can do a bit with a 7m but dollar for dollar, the 1jz is unbeatable value, however 7m`s can be smelted into a lovely BBQ plate

[Hurricane]

You beat a 6Ltr HSV with a 3.9 PUS FRAUD?? I somehow dont believe that, cause HSV spends a bit too much more time building their crappy cars than ford does their crappy family hacks. Unless of course you have a 2JZGTE with JZA80 suspension, then its a differnt story, your EA POS could then win. But even in FUNTASTICALISTIC condition, the 3.9 was about as exciting as the 18RC(i love my 18R's, but i am realistic too)

Cheers, Owen

yeah i shit you not, it was on a cruize with www.aftermathmotorsports.tk
there was other cars on the cruize so its not like it was a straight road race, or a open road race, there was other cars to get around, but it still was like racing, and he said that he was racin, and then he said he couldnt get around me because his tyres were shit.

If i new haw to prove it, i would. but i gess you can say what you want cos i know what went down.