5ME -> 7MGE conversion in MA61?

[ViPeR_NiPPleX]

i always assumed the 7mgte ran a bigger clutch, but the 5m-e to 7mge's all ran the smaller one. There are enough people running the 5m-e clutch on 7mgtes to be sure that you shouldnt have a problem without a turbo

[RObErT_RaTh]

Thanks viper, that makes me feel better just being reassured

[Negative Boost]

Okay,

The 5M's had a 225mm clutch and a few RARE 236mm clutches. The flywheels are to suit.
The 7MGE has a 240mm clutch. If you can find a 240mm flywheel to suit or have one yourself already on the back of your engine, i am very jealous of you.
The 7MGTE has a 240mm clutch also but it is a pull type clutch unlike the push type of the naturally aspirated engines. The flywheels are different between the 7MGE's and 7MGTE's also. Same size of course but different.

You can run a 5M (225mm) HD clutch behind the 7M. Heck i think the clutch behind my 6M was a stock standard 5M clutch. She slipped a little on occasion when you hammered the launches.

[RObErT_RaTh]

Awesome, thanks for the info boost, really appreciate it

[sumfancyname]

So what happened to the wiring side of things.im bout to do the same converstion and the only thing playing on my mind is the wiring.

[ecko]

both m series engines
meaning
both 6cyl
both fuel injected
both around same dispacement,
bother same era

wiring should be close to idectical engine wise
cant imagine it being hard at all really

[sumfancyname]

ok thanks heaps ecko

[ke_70]

if i use a cressy motor (front sump) will i still need to use the 5me sump and oil pump?

and also relocate the oil dipstick? why does this need to be moved? does it foul with the chassis or somthing?

thanks

[wilbo666]

if i use a cressy motor (front sump) will i still need to use the 5me sump and oil pump?

and also relocate the oil dipstick? why does this need to be moved? does it foul with the chassis or somthing?

thanks

If you use a MX83 motor it will be already be front sump so you won't need to change the sump or pickup

Again you only need to relocate the oil dipstick if you're changing from Mid sump to Front sump


Cheers
Wilbo

[sumfancyname]

i did this convertion and the wiring wasnt easy, was the biggest pain in the butt.i had to pay and auto electrician to do it and he said he never wants to see my car again lol. i used a ma70 engine tho but im gathering mx83 wld be harder again.tell me how u went

[ke_70]

yeah after abit more research i have no idea about the wiring side of things...

everyone just says its all simple.

do i use the 5me ecu?
that andys nz site doesnt work anymore. its seems to be what everyones uses...

[wilbo666]

do i use the 5me ecu?

No, use the 7M engine ecu!

There really aren't that many wires that need to be connected / integrated

Cheers
Wilbo

[ke_70]

yeah but what wires lol!

i might have to have a look under dash to understand.
ive found this pic. is this all that needs to be done on the ecu side of things?


to me thats the wrong way around?

[ke_70]

all i need is the 5me 24pin plug wiring pinouts

has anyone got a diagram?

[rob]

5m should have the pin designation etched into the PCB crack the ecu case open (open both sides)