LSx and 1UZ comparison & dimensions

[WDE_BDY]

I would be interested to see how much narrower it is through the exhaust manifold faces, thats generally where the clearance problems come in (although LS still looks a little narrower). Sheepers did a quick measure up on my 4V and it seems to be wider than a 1UZ in that area, will do some proper measurements on the V series when I get a chance.

Callum

[twentyEight]

Sheepers did a quick measure up on my 4V and it seems to be wider than a 1UZ in that area, will do some proper measurements on the V series when I get a chance.

That's great info, as it means the RS40 definitely won't be getting a 4V or 5V... Cheers!

[sheepers]

yea, 4V + *S40 or *S50 is gonna require major front suspension modification.
ill let you know when im finished.....

[TA22 1MZ]

Here's some comparison shots I prepared earlier The wrapped up engine is the LS.
Tried to get a 1UZ shot from the same perspective. In terms of head clearance to the strut towers, the LS has a heap more room. Exhaust manifolds sit much higher on the LS also giving plenty of room for some nice pipes.
Other interesting point is steering. Because the bottom part of the block is quite narrow, this engine would be friendly with a steering box setup if you didnt want to move to R&P.

[big_zop]

There are plenty of cars getting around or in the build that are overcoming the weight restriction. Would love to know how!
Some recent LS conversions I have seen are BMW 320i, GTR Skyline, Series 6 RX7.
For NA, is it 3x multiplier and FI 2x multiplier?
If so, NA would need a car weighing 1900kg and FI would need 2280kg

Nope, its 4.82 and 4 for NA and forced respectively in NSW under the current rules (not NCOP). Not sure what the exact numbers are in NCOP is but i believe that NA goes up and FI comes down.

Those are some great shots and would really like to see what you have in regards to sump comparisons?

[Robbos_Toyotas]

how much longer is the ls1? 80mm? being so much narrower, i realise its pushrod, but is it a 60 degree v like a ford windsor or is it a 90 like a 350chev/ ford clevo?
blake

["Z" UTE]

Jack, you horrible horrible young man, I am in the midst of fabricating engine mounts for a 1UZ into a Crown ute, and you go and post this up.

Lots of great info in here for comparison, thanks heaps.

cheers Chuck.

[IN 05 NT]

FUCK YEAH JACK!

thanks for pics of the LS in the 22 bay....should be motsa room in the 23 bay

have you tried fitting up the tremec into the tunnel? any chance it will fit with a massage or a cut/shut tunnel job?

[Hiro]

but is it a 60 degree v like a ford windsor or is it a 90 like a 350chev/ ford clevo?
blake

Windsor is 90degrees, almost all American V8s are.

[Joshstix]

but is it a 60 degree v like a ford windsor or is it a 90 like a 350chev/ ford clevo?
blake

Windsor is 90degrees, almost all American V8s are.

That's some funny shit right there from Mr old school V8's.

[twentyEight]

Windsor is 90degrees

Correct.

And from the pics in this thread, so is the LSx.

[Robbos_Toyotas]

Windsor is 90degrees, almost all American V8s are.

dude 302/351 windsor is 60 degree, i know this as i built one and had it in my ma61

cleveland is 90 degree same as chev.

find a photo of the cleveland vs windsor block, windsor is a LOT narrower

[Joshstix]

The 302 windsor has a shorter deck height and hance is a lot more compact than a 351C.

I can't believe you're arguing this point and using the fact you built one as an argument when it is common knowledge that the engine is a 90 degree V. I mean Ford said it was 90 degrees but I guess they might have been wrong.

I think you have just confirmed a lot of long held theories on just how much it is that you "know".

I'll try and find some pictures to support your knowledge but I do not like the chances.

Man google books is kind of cool for this kind of thing check out http://books.google.com.my/books?id=...degree&f=false

[TA22 1MZ]

FUCK YEAH JACK!

thanks for pics of the LS in the 22 bay....should be motsa room in the 23 bay

have you tried fitting up the tremec into the tunnel? any chance it will fit with a massage or a cut/shut tunnel job?

No worries Blake, I thought you would like these pics
Dont hold me to it mate, but I would be quite confident in fitting a T56 behind it with some massaging. It would result in the engine still sitting quite forward. For good weight distribution, recessing the firewall and opening up the tunnel would be the way to go.

[TA22 1MZ]

Jack, you horrible horrible young man, I am in the midst of fabricating engine mounts for a 1UZ into a Crown ute, and you go and post this up.

Lots of great info in here for comparison, thanks heaps.

cheers Chuck.

Come on Chuck, dont tell me your not tempted
Old school Crown ute would be awesome!!