TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

[o_man_ra23]

555 actually made the ball joints OEM for Toyota, so the 555 branded ones are OEM quality. I wouldn't bother with anything else personally.

The bend you see in your tie rod end is actually to cater for the balljoint on your idler/pitman arm and is factory, so no you didn't bend it.

[ta22 3tgte]

I just bought all these for my TA22, I used all aftermarket parts and the quality was good, just through my local Bursons Auto Parts. I did have to get a 555 Idler arm though, and it was difficult to source, but they are still available genuine if you get stuck.

I will add that I did swap 1 ball joint and 2 outer tie rod ends for better quality units, but it was just matter of saying this is not good enough order me a different brand, and checking the quality when they arrived.

You should not have a problem, and all were reasonably priced.

Cheers Brendan

[parrot]

The bend you see in your tie rod end is actually to cater for the balljoint on your idler/pitman arm and is factory, so no you didn't bend it.

This was on a Datsun 1600 and the tierod end actually collapsed in the centre and was at about 45 degrees. This was sufficient to pull the drivers side wheel in and put it in a spin.

Confirmed by the police accident investigation people at the time.

[o_man_ra23]

I think both of us have our wires crossed Parrot. I was actually talking to the OP, but after re-reading his post, his tie rod (the 'tube') should be straight, not bent. When removing any ball joint, undo the nut, then hit the side of the 'hole' (ie the drag link, or steering knuckles)... if you are replacing the ball joint you can hit the shaft, but it is unlikely to help much.

[hks7mgt]

Yeah, the inner tie rod did not want to budge out (actually is still stuck on the drag link). I'll leave it to the workshop to get off.

Since Toyota do not have any 'tubes' available, i'll have to either buy a second hand one from the wrecker (cheaper option) or buy some aftermarket new ones. AJPS had them for $170 a pair with outer tie rods too. I'm thinking about it...

I'm wiating on a few quotes to come back before i decide who'll do the work.

Thanks for all your feedback.

[o_man_ra23]

I am pretty sure the TA22 tie rods are the same as the RA23/28/40 and RT13x series corona items, in which case you have a nice easy selection at the wreckers. But take your old ones with you to make sure, and don't forget the two threads in it are different (one is right hand, the other is left hand).

Cheers, Owen

[hks7mgt]

I am pretty sure the TA22 tie rods are the same as the RA23/28/40 and RT13x series corona items,

Thanks Owen. I'll ring my guy at Toyota to confirm at the very least.

Looking at the standard tube compared to the after market items, you can see how easly they can bend, including the Lower Control Arms as idealy they could have more support under them. But for general road use i suppose Toyota did a good job

[hks7mgt]

I rang toyota and the guy said there are no steering components on the TA22 that is interchangable with other Toyotas including the tubes. I found that a bit hard to believe, but this guy is normally spot on.

However, i rang Sleeks Spares in Adelaide and Dave is a freaking legend! He has FACTORY Toyota parts in STOCK! Including Ider Arms and Tie Rod Ends.

I'm only funny about the bushing in the Ider Arm being of stock nature. SA Suspension will replace the bushing in the Idler Arm for a Urethane one - providing my ball joint is still ok to continue on with and SA Sus said they're normally OK. I'll double check mine tonight.

[parrot]

Checked my aftermarket catalogues

TA22 balljoint BJ145 is shared with TA22, TA23, RA23, RA28, RA40, RA60 manual & power, RA65 manual & power, SA63 manual & power, Corolla KE30 - AE86, XT130, XT131, RT 132, RT133, ST 141, ST142, RT 142 (manual & power).

TA22 Outer tierods TE489L shared with TA23, RA23, RA28, RA40, RT40 - RT81, KE30 - KE70 with recirc ball, TE72, MX32, MX36, MX62, XT130, XT131, RT132, RT133.

TA22 inner tierod TE490R shared with KE30 - KE70 with recirc ball (not TE72)

TA22 idler SX4239 shared with TA23, RA23, RA28 BUT SEE BELOW, THETOYMAN75 STATES THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. LEFT HERE SO YOU CAN BE AWARE OF DISCREPANCY IN CATALOGUES

Of course these catalogues are not always infallible, but may help. Buyer beware blah blah blah.

[hks7mgt]

does it mention tubes???

[parrot]

No mention of tubes.

[The Witzl]

Hey i posted up info similar to this back in 2006. Thought i should add it here for extra info.
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showpo...6&postcount=16

PLEASE NOTE - these parts numbers are for RA28

Steering parts for RA28
SX5241 - Pitman arm
SX4246 - Idler arm
TE489L - outer tie rod end x 2
TE490R - inner tie rod end x 2

[hks7mgt]

going by those part numbers you must have been reading out of the same catelogue - or do all the catelogues use the same part numbers?

[parrot]

Those are the numbers 555 designated. 555 are a big manufacturer of this sort of stuff. TRW use different numbers - they stick a T in front of it!

[TheToyman75]

TA22 and 23/28 Idler arms are NOT the same

(From memory one of the Tie rod ends is also different - inner from memory - Could be wrong but)