GT4 to RWD?

[Sleek22]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering if it would be that hard to convert a GT4 celica to RWD, The way i figure would be through the use of a similar kit available for WRX's that deletes the front drive mechanisms. I havn't heard of anything like this being readily available and would probably have to have one made from scratch and it could cost a bit but I was just wondering if anyone had any input into this.

Cheers,
Aza.

[ViPeR_NiPPleX]

take a look at Justin's 1uz st185...

[Sleek22]

I can't find it is it on toymods or somewhere else? and yes I used search as welll

[Classique71]

try gt8 (10 characters )

[Sleek22]

Still cannot find anything, can someone post me a link, im pretty computer illiterate

[tooch]

The difference with Justen's car is that he has used a RWD motor and box, North South mounted and is only using the rear diff. Completely different kettle of fish.

You would need to remove the front driveshafts and possibly disable the front diff, as I'm sure there would be problems with it having no load on it. As well as that, you would probably somehow screw the center diff. To do it all properly, I'd imagine you would need to have the gearbox modified to effectively remove the front diff and lock the centre diff, all in all it wouldn't really be worth it.

[Classique71]

cool1 once said his shop had sucessfully converted an st165 to rear wheel drive only - i wonder if he knows how it was done

[JustenGT8]

cool1 once said his shop had sucessfully converted an st165 to rear wheel drive only - i wonder if he knows how it was done

LOL that is too funny.

Back to the topic at hand though, your poor 6.75inch rear diff will last about 2 days once you have managed to convert to RWD only and i have no idea how you'll manage it or why you would even bother.

[Classique71]

nods - unless you go full kit like justens * gt8 * its not much point - be happy with AWD grip and the power its able to put down

Anyway - A boosted, more grunty Gt4 - is so so so Much more fun than stock! All they need is a little more power to the wheels - say - about 50 more KW , as a nice all round figure ) and they really are the best bang for bucks AWD car out there IMHO

[Dom-AE71]

its worthy to note that justin is using a JZA70 rear cradle and im pretty sure a torsen center?

which is a very long way from the standard rear celica setup.

[JustenGT8]

Close but no cigar :-) It's a JZA70 rear end but a full TRD gearset and clutch LSD straight from the Bathurst Supra Team that Peter Williamson ran/drove for.

[Cool1]

LOL that is too funny.

They do say small things amuse small minds

[Cool1]

Yeah we converted 2 ST165s to RWD but we didnt just remove the front drive shafts. The engine and box was pulled out, the box was dumped, engine was bolted to a w5x, crossmember modified and new engine mounts made, custom gearbox crossmber made, Bilstein struts fitted and front mount IC's.
A few other thinsg were done too, rollcage, brakes etc

I believe one of these cars now lives in NZ.

[JustenGT8]

They do say small things amuse small minds

Nothing small about your imagination but funny all the same

Love to see one of these 165's, how'd you go with the new floor pan? how about the diff? the stocker is only a weanie T series so isn't going to take 3SGTE torque very long and a 2.9:1 ratio ain't exactly the best ratio for a 4cyl? How about some pics, keen to see how it was all done compared to the GT8?

[Cool1]

So your the only one in the world to ever do a RWD GT4? I see..
The trans tunnel mods were argued about on the old forums. Dont know what you would need a new floor pan for?
Diff? Who cares? Thats not our problem!
Ratio? Again who cars its still not our problem!

[JustenGT8]

So your the only one in the world to ever do a RWD GT4? I see..
The trans tunnel mods were argued about on the old forums. Dont know what you would need a new floor pan for?
Diff? Who cares? Thats not our problem!
Ratio? Again who cars its still not our problem!

Not sure what you see but that's a question you have asked, not a statement i made?? If you are interested in an answer - actually, i have no idea but have yet to see another and would be very keen to see one if another existed.

and last time i looked the trans tunnel was part of the floor pan so kinda obvious why i installed a new one.

maybe we should be talking to the rest of the 'our' to get some actually info, although if their service is so crap they don't care about the fundamentals of a build they are doing for a customer then i doubt they'll have anything useful to contribute either.

Apologies for the slight thread divergence Sleek22. For real entertainment, ask about a RWD 3SGTE conversion into a 22

seriously though unless you are looking at a seriously engineered project, a RWD GT4 is just too hard and your dollars are better spent elsewhere

[Cool1]

So a fabrication shop should care about what diff and ratios a customer wants? I guess we should do an oil change on all the cars we work on too? Maybe change the plugs? Empty the ash tray?

[JustenGT8]

Well this 'fabrication' shop dropped the engine, did the suspension, the brakes and just about everything else according to your 1st post....kinda dumb not to finish the job and look at what is actually going to make the thing move don't you think? So either this 'shop' had no idea or as you so succinctly put it, didn't care??? Not the best endorsement for customer service i have ever heard

[Cool1]

So your saying it would be best that a company went and did what they wanted and not what the customer wanted? I'm guessing the extra work should be done free of charge aswel?

[JustenGT8]

Nope, pretty clear what i said. Funny how the story changes though isn't it?...first it was the shop didn't care and now it's apparently the customer who didn't want the diff touched...nor apparently the oil changed or the ashtray cleaned, strange buggers customers. I suspect you do indeed do alot of guessing