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    Ok, im probably going to go EWP in the next engine revision, partially so i can keep the pump going when i pull into the pits.

    Anyway, that aside, ive noticed a slightly different design, which uses the stock pump, but simply runs it off a seperate motor like so:


    Looks like a pretty good little solution (apart from finding a place to put the motor, and running the belt. Mainly because it solves the problem with the normal Davies Craig EWP kits leaking, as it just uses the stock pump.

    Anyone else used one of these, and have an informed opinion on it?
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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    Stewart Components make a pretty good remote mounted EWP thats not as bulky and agricultural looking as the DC....



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    and if you like a bit of bling they can anodize the housing in red and other hot looking colours
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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    who makes that first one Takai? looks interesting.. could even just convert a motor from old thermofan, as they are designed to run pretty often and be reliable...

    have you looked at the meziere pumps?
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    Procomp make the first motor. I wasnt thinking of buying one, more just adapting something else. Although it probably wouldnt be that expensive, around $60 i think. But you are right, the thermofan option would be easier, just have to fit a pulley to it.

    Havnt looked at the meziere pumps. Anything over in japland for the 4AGE?
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    forgot about the meziere range, they're also very good and their customer service is tops.
    They helped me the last time I was querying about EWP and the only reason I ended up not getting it at the time was I came over here and shelved the car till a later date

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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    How much power does it take to run the water pump?

    Would the thermo fan motor have enough?

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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    just as a correction....the pic in the original post is of a setup made by Proform, not Procomp

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    That is true, my fault.
    VPW sell them here: http://www.vpw.com.au/productgroup.a...&PrdGrpID=2678
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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    whats this rumour of the DC EWP kits leaking?

    i had one running on the 1g for over a year without one problem..... also had a thermo fan die on me at wakefield, so set the EWP to run COLD as possible and drove it home to syd with no problems.

    alot easier to setup, aswell,

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    I believe roundy had issues with DC ones as well..

    watching this with interest - no waterpump = more room for FMIC pipes ina 205
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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    i did, but that was the DC booster pump which was too small for the W/A IC, nevermind trying to pump the cooling system for an engine :O

    there could be some agricultural or marine pumps that might fit the bill...it would depend on how much water gets pumped around.
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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    looks interesting, I wonder how many watts that sucks?

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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    Anyone have some prices for the different pumps ?

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    The Proform one in the original post is $79 from VPW.
    Davies Craig EWP 80 is $189 from Repco on special.
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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    The first 1 or 2 series of the DC water pumps had issues with them leaking around the bushings. I bought one of the series 1 pumps (probably 7+ years ago maybe) for my 13BT conversion and only got around to installing it about 2 years ago, and the first time i cranked it up it leaked like a sieve. I rang DC directly and they said "yeah the old ones are shit, send it back and we will send you a new one" so i did that and its perfect now, never missed a beat and i just run it always on with ignition, but thermo controlled by the MoTeC.
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    Default Re: Electric Water Pump Options

    heres the offical website for the proform one

    http://www.proformparts.com/mistore/...display_mode=4

    I think I will give it a go, I was thinking of going for the davies craig but damn they are ugly and bulky. I would of had to go for an external thermostat also with the way I wanted to set it up

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    Yeah, the only problem i can forsee is trying to find a place to mount the sodding thing.
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    And potential weirdness with alternator belts..
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    Well the alternator is fairly low down on the intake side, so i was thinking about running this higher up on the exhaust side, should be pretty ok there.

    Ive also wondered about using the DC EWP inline with the bottom rad hose (as you have done) without the thermostat of course, but the problem there is that i dont particularly want to run the controller and i think it might run too cold.
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