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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Quote Originally Posted by chubbylover53
    Hey mate

    If it helps, i was thinking about doing the exact same thing for my track car. Even managed to find a 20R head ( which is for sale for the right price ) but in the end i added up the cost and it worked out cheaper to go with a 1ggte.
    It's a lighter engine which in turn leads to a better handling car, makes a hell of a lot more power without even touching the engine (makes good for reliabilty) and in the end you finish up with something more accepting to future mods.
    Oh yeah and if u drive it off boost ( maybe it's a streeter too) you get much better fuel economy. With all those advantages the extra time it takes you to save up IMO doesn't sound that bad.

    Thats my 2c n e ways.
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    Dont spose you still have the 20R head.

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Quote Originally Posted by bansheebuzz
    look at the dizzy, if it has no vac advance pod then its tccs
    Thats easyy..No i forgot was tccs better or worse...sorry im old

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    I remember being told that the analog EFI was more mod-friendly. Again, ask the OCC.

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    forget last msg i went back and reread it..

    So what do we think

    22RE with the mods we have been talking about in a straight drag with an AE82 with a nearly stock 4age 88KW.
    Who's gunna win and by how much.?????

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Quote Originally Posted by dale30
    forget last msg i went back and reread it..

    So what do we think

    22RE with the mods we have been talking about in a straight drag with an AE82 with a nearly stock 4age 88KW.
    Who's gunna win and by how much.?????
    22re would win
    If in doubt power out

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Quote Originally Posted by 7MA61
    22re would win

    Big win or just..??????

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Quote Originally Posted by dale30
    Big win or just..??????
    I put my money on my corona with stock 22re taking a stock AE82 in a straightline or being lineball. In a lighter car its a no brainer especially after mods. U may have the same power but you've got an extra 50Nm of torque stock
    If in doubt power out

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    i'd be thinking RT142 'rona vs ae82 twin cam, the 4ag has it

    as for afm interchangebility, depends on the efi type, as far as i can tell ya, a tccs 5mge afm would swap with a 22re tccs one, unless ur upping injector size or rail pressure, u'd want to tweak the door a bit to sort out the AFR.

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    it won't matter which efi system you get, if you plan on port heads, cam and a few more bits, it will put the engine out of the paramiters of the ecu. You will just never get it to run 100%. Your best bet would be aftermarket ecu

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Quote Originally Posted by bansheebuzz
    it won't matter which efi system you get, if you plan on port heads, cam and a few more bits, it will put the engine out of the paramiters of the ecu. You will just never get it to run 100%. Your best bet would be aftermarket ecu
    Dont know if this will change your thinking but we only run wide open throttle on track.
    With the 22 i would think between about 3500 and 6000 just on and of the gas a bit through corners.

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Quote Originally Posted by ViPeR_NiPPleX
    i'd be thinking RT142 'rona vs ae82 twin cam, the 4ag has it

    as for afm interchangebility, depends on the efi type, as far as i can tell ya, a tccs 5mge afm would swap with a 22re tccs one, unless ur upping injector size or rail pressure, u'd want to tweak the door a bit to sort out the AFR.
    It will actually be in an XT130 if that makes a difference...

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    Viper, unless you know for sure, it isn't as simple as that. Even between same type of EFI, different AFMs have differnt outputs, and as I said already some are completely incompatible - reverse resitance curve.

    I do know that some yanks run fairly modded 2xRs on stock analog EFI - large AFM, ajusted spring, and larger injectors to suit. Sure the curves won't be ideal and it won't be fuel efficient - but this is a budget build.

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    Default Re: 22RE performance and toughness

    i understand different afm's have reversed resistance curves, i'm fairly sure the 5m-e and the 5m-ge ones are opposites, which is why i'd be highly suspicious that when the switch to TCCS occured, they changed the AFM's too... however i'm not going to say that is correct

    if its for track stuff, you could run the 21R carby manifold and using an adaptor, pick a carby that will suit ur flow requirements although personally i'd rather stick with efi

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