Legalities of coil-over spring kits

**o_man_ra23** · 20-06-2006, 01:03 PM

idea might be to do the home job bob alignment at the track between races, and once the settings are right, go and see mr professional, get measurements taken, and have the suspension set back to that each time you go to the track... though that could get quite expensive. Mind you motorsport was never said to be cheap

Cheers, Owen

**oldcorollas** · 20-06-2006, 02:06 PM

measuring your own alignment isn't that hard

just because the tyre shop uses lasers and crap doesn't mean you need to.. or that it is more accurate

it's just angles....

**Draven** · 20-06-2006, 02:10 PM

yeah, but it's SO much easier and quicker to go into a tyre shop andsay "I want -1.5 camber, 0.5 toe-in, max castor" and let them do their thing

**TooF** · 20-06-2006, 02:26 PM

lasers schmasers.

the chap that does mine uses old school verniers to do the job and ive never got better alignments.

i walk in and say i was this caster,camber and toe and thats what i walk out with.. ive never found a tyre shop thats all that willing to do something that isnt "from the book"

**o_man_ra23** · 20-06-2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by TooF

i walk in and say i was this caster,camber and toe and thats what i walk out with.. ive never found a tyre shop thats all that willing to do something that isnt "from the book"

TA22Boy used to do mine... lasers and non-book stuff... but then again, knowing somebody helps

Pity i cant get him to do it anymore

Still, what stu said is exactly correct... can be done fairly accurately by a competent home user... Bodgy backyarders are the ones you need to watch out for.

Cheers, Owen

**9000rpm** · 20-06-2006, 09:41 PM

I bought one of those eBay coil over kits. It was meant to be for a Civic.
Firstly, the person had NO idea what they were on about,
The sleeves are alloy not stainless (he said he meant the springs were stainless...)
The top hats are plastic,
The ID was meant to be 54mm but is infact 51mm on mine (he still swears its 54mm, its 51mm for 90% of the ID then the last 10% is 54mm)
I measured the front coils 450lb/8kg, rear 350lb/6kg
Both alloy threads are identical and springs the same height (200mm?)

So for 2 pairs of threads/lower seat/lock nut and 2 pairs of springs $190 delivered is cheap!
You will need to buy some alloy top hats though.

**o_man_ra23** · 21-06-2006, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by 9000rpm

I bought one of those eBay coil over kits. It was meant to be for a Civic.
Firstly, the person had NO idea what they were on about,
The sleeves are alloy not stainless (he said he meant the springs were stainless...)
The top hats are plastic,
The ID was meant to be 54mm but is infact 51mm on mine (he still swears its 54mm, its 51mm for 90% of the ID then the last 10% is 54mm)
I measured the front coils 450lb/8kg, rear 350lb/6kg
Both alloy threads are identical and springs the same height (200mm?)

So for 2 pairs of threads/lower seat/lock nut and 2 pairs of springs $190 delivered is cheap!
You will need to buy some alloy top hats though.

yeah, sounded dodge...
Plastic top caps?? thats terrible

Stainless springs?? you dont want stainless for your springs, you want spring steel, which like tool steel has a high vanadium content (ever see how much you can bend a good spanner and itll just come straight back into shape??)

I would say that they arent worth their weight in dirt... cheap components are not worth the breakage. Plus, alloy sleeves wouldnt be all that easy to weld to steel.

Cheers, Owen

**9000rpm** · 21-06-2006, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by o_man_ra23

yeah, sounded dodge...
Plastic top caps?? thats terrible

Stainless springs?? you dont want stainless for your springs, you want spring steel, which like tool steel has a high vanadium content (ever see how much you can bend a good spanner and itll just come straight back into shape??)

I would say that they arent worth their weight in dirt... cheap components are not worth the breakage. Plus, alloy sleeves wouldnt be all that easy to weld to steel.

Cheers, Owen

They are pretty much the same as any kit sold in USA.
The springs are spring steel and the alloy sleeve fits over the strut and would have to be held in place with 2 steel rings welded top and bottom.
I'd never fit them to a car as the instructions say, theyre meant to be held on by grub screws only?!?!?