3TGTE boost?

[merc-blue]

Guys,
It has occured to me im not going to make budget on my goal of 100RWKW T series, so im looking down a forced induction, seeing as i havnt bought pistons yet, what sorta comp ratio should i be aiming for and what sorta boost can i feed in on shot peened rods and ACL duralites without risking disaster?
any one go any experience with running say 10psi on standard internals?

Any forced induction T series info would be very helpful

[TA22 GT]

I assume you have a 3T GTE? 10 psi with the stock set up is fine.

I have an intercooler and Garrett GT25 turbo running 14psi and still on stock internals.

I think the limit of the stock internals is about 18psi if you have an intercooler and good tuning. Over that and you need forged pistons and better head gasket/bolts at a minimum.

Also the limit of the stock injectors is around 200hp.. thats about 40hpo more than a stock 3T GTE, so you need more fuel too...

Stock compression for a 3T GTE is 7.8:1 which is good for a turbo application.

Cheers,
Simon

[merc-blue]

Simon
Thanks, so i wont have any problem running say 15 PSI intercooled on shot peened rods and ACL duralites? im not running stock injectors either so thats cool

[TA22 GT]

Well my 3T GTE is running 14psi on completely stock internals and its going great.

Currently putting out 145rwkw to give you some idea, BUT remember its tuned properly.

Get the tuning wrong and it won't last long.

cheers,
Simon

[3t-RA40]

Merc-Blue, mines running ross forgies (a little less comp ratio), gapless rings, 2mm copper head gasket, large front mount, revised front intake manifold, mitsi TD05 turbo, Haltech (90% tuned), 18psi which equates to 210hp rear wheels.

This photo was taken prior the haltech, so engine bay is a little different now but manifold ins intercooler are still the same. 210hp was after 5 hours of tuning, would be a little higer if we put it back on now due to 5 hours of heat soak.
Cheers,
Neil.

[oldcorollas]

read up on everything Yellorolla has ever posted about his setup

[TA22 GT]

Merc-Blue, mines running ross forgies (a little less comp ratio), gapless rings, 2mm copper head gasket, large front mount, revised front intake manifold, mitsi TD05 turbo, Haltech (90% tuned), 18psi which equates to 210hp rear wheels.

Neil.

3T RA40, can you post a couple more pics of the intake? Looks like a great design.

Did you retain the original base?

Cheers,
Simob

[3t-RA40]

I'll try and find some better photos over the next couple of days. It's not pretty, but in works.
Yeah I used the bottom and just redid the top. With the Haltech now fitted the dizzy and various other things are now gone so I'm contemplating redoing the manifold again.
Cheers,
Neil.

[TheToyman75]

Guys,
It has occured to me im not going to make budget on my goal of 100RWKW T series, so im looking down a forced induction, seeing as i havnt bought pistons yet, what sorta comp ratio should i be aiming for and what sorta boost can i feed in on shot peened rods and ACL duralites without risking disaster?
any one go any experience with running say 10psi on standard internals?

Any forced induction T series info would be very helpful

Rohan,

mate it isn't that cut and dried as to a specific boost level where things go wrong. The stock crank and rods in a 3T-GTE will happily take more power than your likely to make if you keep the RPM sensible. Its not all about boost or PWR levels, more like RPM and state of tune.

As an indication Ryan in the US has a 10Sec 3T-GTE in his TA22. He was using stock rods and making 500+ RWHP until it hydrauliced and bent a rod. He now has a set of billet rods. Why go billet rods.... Because they are cheaper than buying a stock set and having theme prepared and fitting ARP bolts.

If your not doing big RPM and you already have good rods you don't need to change them (And by high I mean 8500RPM plus)

The pistons are cast so not as strong or forgiving as a set of forgies but with the right state of tune they don't need to be all that strong and should happily handle a bar or so of boost, I actually beleive 18 - 20psi should be more than possible. I was going to prove the point wih my RA28 but since it came with a pre-broken piston It has forgies in it now. It is heat and/or detonation that generally kills pistons NOT boost levels.

Since you are buying pistons anyway why would you not get forgies ? How much are the ACL pistons ? Do they include Rings and pin clips ? An extra few weeks or so saving to make the difference $$$ wise is probably a better idea.

[merc-blue]

yeah Rod i have been looking at forgies and am really tempted,
I will be shot peening the rods i have (i thing 2TG) i havnt compared them to 3TGTE rods yet but they look like they will take it,
I was talking to some yanks who run high boost 3TCs and they were saying the same thing, re detonations I plan on using the highest flow injectors i can get that wont end up on a two low duty cycle,
also will be running a FMIC and depending on how it runs i might put on a oil cooler ,already going to remote mount the filter so not to much extra work, if it isnt running overly warm i wont bother casue i dont like the idea of cool oil in a hot engine

i will be running a microtech LT8 (unless better comes up for my budget) and will be getting it all dyno tuned

i dont plan on taking it past 8K

[tin can]

Well i made 105rwkw in my ke70

engine:3tc big cam and r34 turbo haltech e6x (second hand) 2.5" exhaust on 10psi .



thanks jess

[merc-blue]

jess,
look up them crazy porte rican 3TCs they do 7 second 1/4s

[tin can]

MATE!

why do u think i built the 3tc the orginal motor in my t18 made 45kw at 5500.know the same moto with cam and turbo makes 105 and the six speed every gear is like sex just to good


thnaks jess