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    Default 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    hey guys have just fired up my titan spec 1.5jz specs as follows:

    1jz head, port work, o/s valves, ti springs retainers, 264 cam 9.5mm lift, gates cam gears
    2jz bottom end , 86.5mm JE pistons, manly rods, acl bearings

    jza80 loom/ecu, running OEM stock injectors, stock fuel pressure although running 044 fuel pump

    as i am trying to run my cams in for the first time the car is running insanely rich, as in it will fill up the shed with fuel smoke within a few minutes of running, and the manifold starts to glow RED at only 2000 rpm... any ideas what i have missed?

    i understand it will be richer as im using a stock ECU and bigger cams, but ... black smoke just POURS out the back

    have just wired in a new 3 wire o2 sensor and it doesnt seem to change anything.

    map sensor is connected

    Another thing to mention is im running an r34 TPS sensor , with a universal type throttle body, could this be a factor ? it idles/revs smoothly

    any help much appreciated.. just want to get it running well enough to drive it!
    Last edited by forey; 07-04-2013 at 05:50 PM.
    87' z20 Soarer - 1jz Gt35r -

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    Default Re: 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    I love it how u spend heaps on engine and nothing on electronics
    Keep up the good work

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    Default Re: 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    the reason behind the stock ecu and injectors is for run-in... once the 1000kms is done a haltech 2000 and 1600cc injectors are going in.

    but if i cant get the stock ecu running how i want ill have to buy the haltech now rather than later..

    cheers
    87' z20 Soarer - 1jz Gt35r -

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    Default Re: 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    Toyota OEM ECUs (atleast pre-1996 JZ) utilise a combination of alpha-n and speed-density tables.

    Thus, if you connect up a Nissan TPS, injection will be completely off, because the resulting TPS voltages will be off.

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    Default Re: 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    99% of tps's are 0.5 to 4 volt so that should be fine
    He doesn't have idle contact but that should not make it run rich
    Even without map sensor should not make it run so rich
    Something has changed like injectors are way to big or something stupid we are not told about

    Maybe u have cranking signal to ecu always on
    Even that should not make it run that rich

    Drop fuel pressure to 30 or 20 psi see what it does
    Unplug all sensors except for ones to make it run
    Unplug maf. Map. Tps. See if it helps

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    Default Re: 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    Bit of an update if i bridge the 2j idle switch to the nissan tps output it runs like a dream
    But as soon as you blip the throttle it coughs and dies.. If theres no way to rig up a switch of my own ill have to buy a new tps

    Any jz experts? Cheers
    87' z20 Soarer - 1jz Gt35r -

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    Default Re: 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    From what you have said in your PM, I think the easiest thing is to either
    1) Get / fit a TPS that has an idle switch built in
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    2) Fit a small micro switch (i.e. check out what jaycar have) to trigger the idle signal

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    Default Re: 1.5jz into z20 soarer using jza80 loom - running eye burning rich

    Cheers for your reply wilbo, turns out it wasnt Tps related at all

    1. Map signal was cut to ecu

    2. The 5th and 6th injector wiring had been swapped (chopped loom)
    Making it backfire and carry on

    Pain in the ass but its all sorted now.
    87' z20 Soarer - 1jz Gt35r -

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