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    Default 3SGE motor - Error code 51

    hi guys... done a Google search, but can't seem to get a straight answer...

    1990 Toyota Camry running 3SGE motor, spitting out Toyota Error code 51 : Switch Signal

    Can anyone elaborate on the above ?
    causing rough/low idle, which seems to be the symptoms with consistent with this error code, but I have no idea what to check/fix/replace

    Hopefully some Toyota heads here can give me some details on how to get the Camry running right again.

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    Default Re: 3SGE motor - Error code 51

    No IDL signal, NSW signal (neutral start switch), or A/C signal to ecu.

    A/C switch circuit, A/C switch, A/C amp, neutral start switch circuit, neutral start switch, tps circuit, tps, ecu


    I'd look towards TPS or NSW circuit first
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    Default Re: 3SGE motor - Error code 51

    his is manual, and nsw would be for auto only i'd think.

    if you need another TPS let me know, alt, ahve you adjust the throttle stop recently, this can put the tps out so it doesn't go into idle mode

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    Default Re: 3SGE motor - Error code 51

    In manuals NSW connects to clutch switch. (If it has one). (note, it may not connect directly to clutch switch but through a relay)
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    Default Re: 3SGE motor - Error code 51

    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan yee View Post
    his is manual, and nsw would be for auto only i'd think.

    if you need another TPS let me know, alt, ahve you adjust the throttle stop recently, this can put the tps out so it doesn't go into idle mode
    Hey Jonothan - this is for a mates Camry, and it is Auto
    would have thought if it was NSW though, the car would not start at all. So that possibly dismisses that one.

    He has had the rear main seal done and distributor replaced recently by his local mechanic. Since then, the problem running the car has occured, and the mechanic says its not their problem (they are used to dealing with BMW's and high end Merc's... so a 1990 Camry they aren't really interested in I guess)
    Hoping I can get it fixed for him cheaply and easily.

    they also broke his engine coolant temp sensor which I will need to find a replacement from a wrecking 3S motor (Jonothan??) but thats an easy fix at least.

    So I'm thinking TPS - but have no idea how to adjust it, or reset it to normal. I am teh mechanix basicz. Please explain...

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    Default Re: 3SGE motor - Error code 51

    Damo
    Give me about an hour and i'll go get a copy of the pages you need, just got to go into work to get them.

    Cheers Craig

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    Default Re: 3SGE motor - Error code 51

    Hey Damo

    Heres the info on the tps
    http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_0001-1.jpg
    http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_0002-1.jpg
    http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...IMG_0003-1.jpg
    Just reading through your last post and you said they did the rear main. I would also check the ISC valve could be stuck and due to having the battery disconnected it can't relearn causing the low idle.

    The code 51 will normally only come on when the a/c is turned on while having the check wire connected.

    Cheers Craig

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