2t to 2tg.

[ta22mods]

Heya Guys!

Just wondering if theres anything i need to look out for when doing a 2t to 2tg conversion and also auto to manual conversion. The five speed is attached to my 2tg swap the whole lot at once i would say, gearbox still attached?? any info or tips would be great!

Cheers!!

[frostyadonis]

tailshaft lenght and yolk is different, there's 2 types of yolks on the t50 gearbox 20 spline and 22 spline
tailshaft on the diff end again 2 different types - square bolt pattern and rectangular bolt pattern

auto and manual crossmembers are different
speedo cable is different
wiring for reverse light is needed (plugs in engine bay area near firewall and brake booster)
pedal for clutch needed
manual brake pedal is needed (its narrower on the pad area)
clutch master and piping needed (do this while the engine is out)
hole in trans tunnel for shifter is further forwards on an auto but only an inch (was on mine anyway)73 model
neutral safety switch harness needs to be removed and wiring plug bridged (its the wiring next to the auto shifter)

apart from trimming the shifter hole it's all plug and play
manual crossmeber bolts in different holes than the auto crossmember

anyone doing this conversion with the engine still in the bay
undo the exhaust manifold or extactors from the head because you need the engine to tilt rearwards to fit the gearbox - makes it 100 times easier.....

2t to 2tg uses same engine mounts, radiator, exhaust manifold. top radiator hose is different

[ta22mods]

No worries cheers for that frosty,
So i will be needing the Manual cross member and also The Manual Brake pedal.
Grabbed the tail shaft of the car the 2tg came out of and also the clutch pedal and cylinder.. looks like im missing this little silver tube tho that connects from the clutch fluid to the acceleration plate...maybe..haha
if anyone has any of those parts chuck us a hell... any1 with any other info welcome...
Thanx!!

[river]

Hi,

Don't you need to fabricate new throttle linkages also?

seeyuzz
river

[ta22mods]

I dont know mayyn do they??? any other info would be much much appreciated. have started pulling motor out and it coming along fairly easy.

Also anything i should do to the 2tg before i bang her in?...still clean engine might do gasket kit and spark plugs and the owner said its been worked what should i look for??

Thanks again Rhys

[frostyadonis]

Also anything i should do to the 2tg before i bang her in?...

check/measure the sump bulge, it could fowl against the engine crossmember, (disregard if the 2tg came out of a ta22).
2t and 2tg sumps are interchangable.

as river said, acelerator cable mod needed.
go to a self serve wrecker and grab a ford xe falcon 6cyl acel cable (they're just the right length)and associated clips and a cable type acel pedal (not sure from what model) but the xe ones are too large for the ta22. start with toyota.

whatever pedal you find will need modifing to fit cable and firewall.
make a bracket for the carby end using some of that blue 1 inch thick rectangular steel.
you dont have to weld anything, just drill/cut and bolt in. use washers for correct spacing.

[ta22mods]

Cheers heaps frosty very helpful!! cant belive that there is no other thread for this?? will take photos and do a step by step write up for other people =D

[frostyadonis]

ta45 gt carina. this is the reason to check sump bulge. not all 2tg's came out of ta22's...ever wonder what the unused bolt holes on the cam cover where for. thats right yuckie pollution gear. cast iron aircon bracket is interesting.

[river]

Hi,

Looks remarkably like an 18R-G to me.

seeyuzz
river

[frostyadonis]

100% correct Mr River.
the 2tg has the breather pipe between cyl 3 and 4 on the cam cover
top radiator hose outlet on left side
and no spark lead hold down block on the front area of the cam cover
and most importantly 2tg's are not tractor motors..lol

[river]

Hi,

Cool, thanks for pointing out the differences. I was never sure and always get them confused.

Aye, the 2T-G is not a tractor motor. More suited for a Bobcat or forklift, I think.

seeyuzz
river

[ta22mods]

lucky for me i know this came out of ta22 i pulled it out, along with the gearbox, manual tailshaft and clutch and ect.
Im pretty sure my twin solex's still have a throttle setup on it so might be able to get away with the same accl cable?? engine mounts are all good but no f*n cross member....

[river]

Hi,

2T-G uses linkages, not a cable.

seeyuzz
river

[ta22mods]

Sooo does that mean the "linkages" will not fit because they variey from auto to manual?? i think the throttle set up is a bit dodgy would'nt mind doing it a bit better.. any1 know of a good setup for the 2 throttle linkages??

[ta22mods]

Here's a photo of engine as is - 2tg.jpg