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Thread: Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

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    Question Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

    I can find info and compressor maps readily available for the following T04B wheels:
    60-1
    62-1
    H3
    S3
    V1/V2

    I have been in contact with a turbo supplier for different highflow trims for a supra CT26, and he has stated that he can offer a 63 trim, and a 70 trim. I can't find any info on these at all, so I'm wondering whether there are different names / model numbers for the same wheel? I would like to have a look at the maps for the different available options and see how different they are, but I can't relate the provided numbers to anything on the interwebs.
    Does anyone have any ideas or info on the different trims available, or how they may relate to others?
    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

    this has spec on one of those.
    http://www.alltrac.net/tuning/turbo.html

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    Default Re: Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

    sorry, no maps. just sizes.

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    Default Re: Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

    the Trim is the ratio of Inducer to Exducer given by:

    [(minor wheel diameter)² / (major wheel diameter)²] x 100= compressor or turbine wheel trim
    Last edited by e30-323ti; 01-03-2011 at 12:56 PM. Reason: of course, there are exception to the math in the product naming ie. Super 60 is not actually a '60 trim'

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    Default Re: Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

    Thanks for the replies guys. After doing some more searching around, I've managed to find the following info (on SAU of all places - who would have thought!): Garrett part #, Intake major, Intake minor, trim, alternate name (if app)
    8 Blade T04B:
    409179-0021, 70x48.36, 48 trim, S trim
    409179-0022, 70x49.50, 50 trim
    409179-0023, 70x51.61, 54 trim
    409179-0024, 70x54.00, 60 trim
    409179-0025, 70x55.37, 63 trim, V trim
    6 blade T04B
    409826-0006, 70x48.35, 48 trim
    409826-0012, 70x52.85, 57 trim
    409826-0014, 70x55.30, 62 trim
    409826-0015, 70x58.40, 70 trim, H trim

    The only other question I have is, is there any major pros or cons with using a 6 blade wheel or an 8 blade wheel?

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    Default Re: Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

    In all my unintelligible research on highflow Supra CT26's, the general consensus is never go over a 60 trim, and even thats stretching it a little, cause your just taking out too much material to keep it strong and reliable. Most go 57. I couldn't even imagine how a 70 trim would fit...

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    Default Re: Garrett T04B compressor wheels - can't find info on provided trim numbers.

    Depends on the series of wheel too though. T04B wheels are only 70mm, where T04E wheels (seem to be most common for CT26 HF) are 76mm. As I understand it, a 57trim E wheel has a larger minor than a 63 trim B wheel (57.4mm vs 55.35) and a 60 trim E wheel is larger than a 70 trim B wheel (58.9mm vs 58.4).
    The B series seems to move a heap more air than the E series though. T04E 57 trim is flat out moving 42lb/min @2.2PR, whilst the 63 trim T04B (V trim) will move 50lb/min @2.2PR.
    Not sure how these airflow figures compare once you chuck them in a completely different housing, and at what point the CT26 turbine starts to become choked or a limiting factor in gaining additional horsepower. Currently I'm sitting on 240RWKW @ 1 bar with the T04B 63 trim (V1/V2), and according to the map, there is more left in comp wheel so I might have to have investigate further.

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