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    this is my project brakes issue.
    i have used
    s13 spindle
    s13 hub
    gtr caliper
    gtr 296mm/1.25inch thick rotor
    7075 t6 aluminum block
    15inch te37v 9.5j -20offset
    subaru legacy shocks(tein flex full tap) with edfc
    ae86 camber top
    gtr brake lines
    r32 master cylinder

    i have cut the tierod connection from the s13.
    flattened the s13 control arm mount bolt.
    transefered same distance of holes from ae86 bottom strut mount bolt to s13 spindle.
    drilled holes to spindle with 12mX1.25 tread pattern.
    install spindle to ae86 control arm/tierod plate
    install shocks
    adjust ride height
    adjust damper
    align car
    install brakes
    bleed brakes.
    drive car.
    keep in mind. this took me at least five days to grind down 1 spindle. drill press, is an a must have to drill out the hole on the s13 spindle with the same hole size of the ae86 bottom shock strut mounts.

    i did not weld on anything.
    max spending
    10,000 yen for tools.
    pick up parts from friends"I CAN'T USE THIS PART ANYMORE" locker.
    questions. let me know what you guys think.

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    Seems like a lot of unnecessary work for a somewhat messy and potentially innacurate result. Sorry but thats just the opinion of Rex, no offence. Well done for going a bit of DIY effort though.

    Usually Lads just modify the lower arm and use complete S13 gear.

    Personally, Rex just made an adaptor to fit any of the S13 (NA or turbo), R32/33/34, Z32 or GTR brakes directly to the original AE86 strut. Never even considered your method...
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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    or just use a *A6* strut and bolt them on.
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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    *A6* strut in AE86/KE70 chassis is blasphemy, the king pin angle is completely wrong and the car will never handle the same again.

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    its not that bad, with sigma arms.... , either way my wheel alignment says its all good ?
    Last edited by fixeruperer; 14-01-2011 at 01:21 AM.
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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    I've never seen a wheel alignment readout that included ankerman effect. Remember the *A6* chassis has the same length LCA's as a KE and the strut tops are closer together. *A6* gear in a corolla is akin to shooting JFK IMO.

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    so what problems would be generated from this poor king pin angle ?
    i dont have a funny or cool signature.

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    Understeer mate! The change of ankerman causes less contact area of the tyre on the road at wide lock angles causing the car to loose precision at speed.

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    its ackermann.

    maybe the difference isnt that bad with this setup ? i have a full spool rear , so its gonna understeer before it over steers anyway haha.

    tell you the truth, ive never felt a problem with mine.
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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    If you haven't noticed anything it means my mum would spank you at a track day

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    i dont doubt that.
    i dont have a funny or cool signature.

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    Lol's she is actually a really good driver, don't tell her I said that though :

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    I TOUGE'd it in road 139 last night. it works really good. i let our (japanese)mechanic/time attack driver and asked his opinion about this conversion. his answer was"WHY DID NOT HE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IDEA". He gave me a thumbs up and likes the car handled in the mountain. using the edfc made it a lot easier to tune the suspension.

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    Default Re: ae86 gt-r big brake upgrade

    Seems like a lot of work to fit brakes that are too heavy and bigger than what you'd ever need.

    FWIW what I have on the front of mine ...

    RAV4 front discs & Wilwood calipers.


    Milled up a backing plate.


    The whole lot doesn't weigh a great deal more than the standard setup.
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