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    Default Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    hey guys, ive had my brake sitting around now for about 2 years so i think its time to put them on
    so i thought ill so a step by step guide how to do this upgrade as i go
    NOTE THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH ABS HUB

    ok so what you have is

    2x supra 4pot 323mm disks (standard, slottered, drilled etc)
    2x skyline 4pot calipers (r32)
    2x 3mm spacers
    2x night pager brackets



    TOOLS

    pin nose pliers
    12mm socket
    14mm socket
    17mm socket
    19mm socket
    22mm socket
    mallet/hammer
    19mm spanner

    ok so obviously you unbolt your wheel and then your left with the brakes

    what you start with


    now to remove the caliper there are 2x 17mm bolts on the back of it. unbolt them and with a bit of wiggling around it will come off
    and now once the caliper is off your disk should just slide off, if it doesnt tap it with a mallet and it will.

    then your left with the hub as so



    now the hub measures 148mm and the inside diametre of the supra disk is 143mm. so therefore you will have to grind down 5mm but because its a circle you only have to take off 2.5mm diameter.

    ok next step is up to you. i chose yo unbolt my hub to use a bench grinder to machine the hub down, i know you can use an angle grinder etc but not as accurate but totally up to you. so the next step im gonna do is take the hub off.

    now on the back of the hub you have to unbolt 2x 12mm bolts to unbolt the brake line off the hub. then 17mm bolt on the power steering arm, 19mm top ball joint and 22mm bottom ball joint. (the steering arm and bottom ball joint will have split pins so thats what the pliers are for)


    bolts look like so


    and then your left with this


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    now once you have machined your hub you put it back on and then follows

    you will need 8x high tensile M12x1.25 bolts

    now your dust shield will get in the way of your bracket and your new rotor so you can chose to cut selected area off like so or just cut it mostly off like i did.


    now i sprayed my calipers red so they brake faster
    Last edited by GU11TY; 27-12-2010 at 12:04 PM.
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough

    now i put new pads in the skyline calipers before i put them on and i used Bendix part number DB1170


    and here are the next steps of putting the brakes on
    bolt the nightpager bracket on as ou can see. now make sure the top is done up very tight cause i found it doesnt sit flat on your old caliper mounts that well which caused it to be on aslight angle if not done up all the way tight.


    put the 3mm spacer on the hub before the rotor


    slide the rotor on


    then unbolt your brake line from your old caliper and bolt it up to the skyline caliper with a 14mm socket


    and mount the caliper on the other to holes


    this is what it looks like without the rotor on


    and your done
    this is what the brake look like over a 17" rim


    and now a 18" rim
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    CURRENT - 530hp 2jz MZ20 Soarer and race soarer with carbon fibre bonnet and boot and 8point cage

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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    FFS, dont use a bloody grinder. Take it to someone with a lathe so its actually, you know, balanced.
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    yeh. i would recommend not to use a grinder, use a lathe or bench grinder cause the bench grinder allows the hub to spin so it gets a even grind
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    Quote Originally Posted by GU11TY View Post
    bench grinder cause the bench grinder allows the hub to spin so it gets a even grind
    Ummm. No

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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    Very no. Stupidest idea ive heard all day.
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    Mine came with hub-centric spacers so i used a angle grinder (FLAME ON) its is centered on the spacer been on the car for a while now and has been sweet havnt notice any vibrations on the road and through heavy braking
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    lol. i also took a grinder to my hubs on my old car,
    worked a treat!


    *disclaimer!!!!*

    this is not the ideal method (fucking obviously).
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    bench grinder is working great.. ive already done 1 hub, but didnt get enough time today to do the 2nd
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    Get the hub machined in a lathe you tool.

    Never drive your busted ass shitbox to Victoria.

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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    on this topic does anyone have spare brackets or a cad file for them?

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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    Quote Originally Posted by gianttomato View Post
    Get the hub machined in a lathe you tool.

    Never drive your busted ass shitbox to Victoria.
    dude dont comment on something your havnt seen
    the bench grinder works perfectly fine and is machining bascially a perfect circle. ill even get pix to prove it once i get some spare time at work and finished them
    and why the fuck would i drive to victoria anyway. so keep your comments to yourself.
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    I'll comment because what you are doing is wrong and the logic behind it is flawed. You are also recommending others follow in your fucked footsteps.

    Perhaps take heed when several people who has done this shit a million times over suggest that this is incorrect.

    It pleases me that you have no intention of coming to Victoria. If that is the standard of workmanship you are prepared to parade to the world, I fear for what is not revealed and the consequences of such retardedness.

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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    you show me one person who has done the conversion in this thread that has told me not to use the bench grinder
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    Default Re: Nightpager Brake upgrade supra 323mm disk walkthrough for z20 soarer

    Show me one person who knows anything about metallurgy and the balancing of rotational items, who would do it with a bench grinder.

    All you have shown with your straw poll here is that the people who have posted in here about doing the conversion with the bench grinder have no idea.
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