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    Default KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Recently I've been doing the old 4AGE into a KE70 Panel Van, and went looking for a KE70 or AE71 "tacho dash" (think they were SX models). All the information i could find said that it would be a direct swap... Australian AE71 and KE70 dash's are exactly the same, that's for wagons and sedans, but Panel Vans are WAY different, being more of a jap model i guess (anyone know a bit more on that??)

    Anyway, what i ended up doing was just following and marking each of the wires on each dash and swapping the wires over in the plugs to the correct place. All works fine.

    Hope this helps the few people that have found KE70 panel vans and want a flash dash!
    Cheers
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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    I know this is dragging up an ooooold thread, but I'm in the situation you were at the moment.

    Are you able to remember what wires you swapped around and where they went etc?

    Did you make any diagrams of how you did it?

    Cheers, Matt

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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Hey mate, I think i do have something somewhere, i'll check it out tomorrow.

    Cheers
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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    awesome, cheers mate

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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Any luck..

    I meant to say i've still got the 4A-C but the wiring shouldn't be all that different..

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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    I've got a few diagrams, but here's a table for starters that might help, each dash with wire colours. Aus is KE70 std, JAP is pan van, plug yours in first to check that it doesn't work also!

    Use AUS JAP
    1st plug
    Charge 1 BO Y
    Charge 2 Y BO+
    Oil YB YB
    Ig+ RL RL
    Brake RW RW
    Fuel Lt YL YL
    Ig - B ?

    2nd plug
    Dash + G G
    Dash - G B
    LH GB GB
    RH GY GY
    Fuel G YR YR
    Temp G YL YL

    3rd Plug
    Earth WB WB
    Beam Lt RL RG
    B+ RG RG
    Acc PB PL

    I've got these from comparing the circuits on the back of the dashes, as well as repair manuals. If i get a chance, i'll draw up the plug pics too, will have to just describe them for now. (looking at the open end of the loom plug - i think...) Each dash has the plugs in different places too, will only fit in one spot though due to the " | " in the plug.

    AUS dash
    Plug on left - charge, charge, oil | Ig+, Brake, Park Br, Fuel Lt, Ig-

    Centre plug - Dash+, Dash-, LH, RH, Fuel- | mt, Temp, mt

    Right Plug - Earth, mt, mt, mt | mt, Beam lt, B+, Acc

    JAP dash
    Left Plug - Fuel lt, mt, mt | Charge, Charge, Park, Brake, Oil

    Centre Plug - Fuel F, mt, LH, RH, Earth | Beam, mt, mt

    Right Plug - B+ clock, Acc, Dash lt, Dash lt | Fuel Gauge+, Temp, Fuel?, mt

    This is working so far on mine, hasn't been thoroughly road tested yet, you'll have to do a bit of mucking around to make sure all is good, let me know if you find any mistakes

    See how you go!

    Cheers
    Glen.
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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Awesome, I'll give that a go.

    I've plugged mine in and the car won't even start when it is, so hopefully this will fix that

    Cheers mate

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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    OK...

    I've been trying it today and I got 95% of the way. All the lights bar the charge light (and fuel, as I still have some) are coming on properly, and the tacho is getting a signal and moving.

    Funny thing is, I seem to have ended up with two superfluous wires, a WHITE BLACK and a BLACK.... so I don't know how I've managed that...

    Also, I can start the car, but when I turn it off, I have to pull the negative off the battery and unplug the dash then plug it all back together to start it again.... I'm confused.

    I'm not sure which way the two charge ones go, but i'm experimenting


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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    How is it going?

    I'd say that those two wires, BW and B will be earths.

    Don't know about the restarting thing?? Like you said, a bit of experimenting might fix things up! That;s how i got mine going.

    Good luck!

    Glen.
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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Well, it's going as of last weekend, works almost perfectly, although the tripmeter seems to be working VERY slowly now... Any ideas?

    I've written up a nice guide using your information and I'll attach it.

    I ended up just putting the spare WHITE BLACK wire in an empty hole, and I found where the other BLACK one went

    Cheers, Matt

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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Hey, write up looks awesome mate! Good work, should get a few more pan vans looking schmik. Mine is getting rust cut at the moment, then off for exhaust and 4AGE tune.

    Might have to check speedo cable, that going slow too?

    Glen.
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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Nah, speedo and odo are ticking along fine, just the trip meter.. the white number moves a poofteenth every K or so, at the moment it's sitting on 0009 and i've probably driven 5K's or so... it's confusing

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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    White black seems to be ALWAYS earth on toyotas.

    As for the trip meter going slow, if everything else on the speedo works fine, then its an internal problem... probably a plastic gear broken.

    Cheers, Owen
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    Default Re: KE70 Panel Van Dash

    Yeah it's weird, I checked all the plastic bits when I had it apart... I might have to pull it apart yet again as it's stuck on 0009 now...

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    Hey mate,

    Could you please email me your conversion pdf & any other info you have? I can't download it.
    I'm trying to do the conversion & would rather have details before I attempt it myself.

    Thanks heaps,
    Bourkey
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