V6 Commodore to Toyota Crown

[andrew_mx83]

dude the EA six was as bad for headgaskets as the 7m


speaking of xr6/8's, wasnt the el xr6 quicker than the v8 out of the box? i love that

[eeeyan]

yeah i think your right and now the turbo 6 is faster than the V8 again. Makes you wonder why they offer a V8 really but it is australia and as long as there is a falcon i'm guessing there will be a V8 version

[briney]

dude the EA six was as bad for headgaskets as the 7m


speaking of xr6/8's, wasnt the el xr6 quicker than the v8 out of the box? i love that

in the mighty 3.9's defence, it was apparently an issue with casting sand blocking the radiators that caused most of the bhg problems. more a quality control problem than poor design.

[eeeyan]

in the mighty 3.9's defence, .

mighty??? oh is sense sarcasm Yeah i think your right about the EL 6 being faster than the 8 but they fixed that with the AU mostly by making it ugly as sin so no one bothered buying the car.

Although for a quick bang for your buck you can pick up say a BA falcon for a good price these days and then order a capa supercharger kit and have a car thats quicker than a turbo one.

Or you can get something like a 94/95 BMW M3 for around the 30-35K mark which was nearly 125K new now theres a bargain.

[Norbie]

Once the P Platers begin writing the XR6 Turbo's off, We'll be seeing LOTS of conversions into older cars, maybe somebody could consider ford power in their Toyota?

The Falcon six is massive (especially height) so it's unlikely to fit in anything except other Falcons. You certainly wouldn't squeeze it into a Supra without major surgery.

[eeeyan]

sure you could you just need an angle grinder and a torana style bonnet scoop full boganism for the win

[RONA]

The funny thing is when the XR's came onto the scene in the early 90's the tickford motor EB/ED XR6 had around 165kW and the windsor 5 litre V8 only had around 20kW more (but a stack of torque) makes u realise jsut how usable the torquey 4.0 litre six was just a shame it was in a fat ass like the falcon. I often wonder what say a TF cortina or XD falcon might go like if you shoe horned say a BF falcon turbo 6 into them....

The windsor V8 made 165kw in EB-ED form & only made 169kw in the EF, it was heavier & slower then the inline 6 as well as using more fuel.

It wasn't until the EL that the 185kw engine came to fruition and that was only in the Series 2 models.

Falcon 6 is a massive engine as pointed out by Norbie would be an interesting proposition for an old crown no idea if it would fit though. BF MK2 engine with the typhoon/lpg rods and valve springs, front mount, zorst, injectors & wind up the boost. Effortless 330-350rwkw with stupendous amounts of torque. On the open road it'll still get 10L/100km or less.

[eeeyan]

yeah try getting those fuel figures with a 350kW 1 or 2JZ

[andrew_mx83]

i saw a ba turbo motor the other day, had 3 different holes in the block/sump and one of them had the TOP of the piston stuck halfway thru it


apparently 20psi on a horsepower factory tune = megafail

[RONA]

Um its pretty much impossible to up the boost an any Coon Turbo with the factory tune and anyone attempting it is a fucking spastic. Free flowing exhuast will cause boost spikes but the ecu will crack the shits and go into limp mode. The factory ecu can be remapped properly & cheaply with a vast array of tuning options.

Anyone running more then 15psi on a BA/Early BF bottom end is also equally special.

[andrew_mx83]

punctuation might have helped

it was remapped, by "the horsepower factory"

not a factory tune

[eeeyan]

Rona is correct i have hear its a pain in the ass jsut to install a BOV on the std setup. You really do have to fork out for developed tuning kits for these cars but that said i've seen these kits in magazines for 4-7K for anywhere from a 50 to 150kW gain (not including exhaust)

sorry that let me re-word this into ford and holden speak haha

my mate robbo reckons dazza at the workshop can install a different blower on the bastards and get the thing doing massive stand stills and donuts in the intersections near the wreckers round the corner from macca's place blew the doors off the bloke with the Hq with a stroker and ripped my flanny as he went past. Almost pissed in me good stubbies and ruined my ugg boots.

[RONA]

punctuation might have helped

it was remapped, by "the horsepower factory"

not a factory tune

Any shop willing to tune a customer's car to 20psi on a standard BA bottom end is stupid unless they advised against it & the owner told them to go ahead regardless. Doesn't take a genious to work out running 300% more boost then the factory is going to cause damage.

20psi with proper supporting mods would be well past the efficiency range of the standard turbo as well, it should be very close to 400rwkw. BA bottom ends are good to about 300-330rwkw, anything above that is on borrowed time. Rods are tiny & the oil pump gears are weak bash the limiter & bye bye engine.

Eeeyan incorrect in extracting power, a tune alone can liberate 50rwkw which costs $1000-1500 for tuning time & controller. 300-330rwkw is a known recipe, and can be done for probably $3500-$5000. Anything above that gets more expensive with inlet plenums, rebuilt bottom ends etc.

FG's are a different ball game 300rwkw can be achieved on a tune only.

[eeeyan]

or you could twin turbo the 5.4 V8 and just go nuts

[FAT-RICK]

I often wonder what say a TF cortina or XD falcon might go like if you shoe horned say a BF falcon turbo 6 into them....

has been done quite a few times.

xr6t cortina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GIYbCU73t4