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    Default R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    As the title states the rear seal (for the tail shaft yoke) is leaking gear oil, has continues after replacing the rear seal with a new genuine Toyota one, any ideas what else I could do?

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    Any marks on the tailshaft yoke that look like they could be grabbing the seal?
    Uni joints not siezed/stiff?

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    you obviously made sure the tailshaft and inside the tailend of the gearbox was very clean before installing the new seal and reinstalling the tailshaft?

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    Complete tail shaft has been rebuilt and modified to suit the commodore, commodore shaft lengthened new unis and the yoke that came with the box.
    Just another thought would the yoke likely to be tapered? perhaps the yoke isn't sitting far enough into the back of the box. Anyone have an idea how far the shaft should sit in the back of the box?

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    I dont think there is a specific measurement but id say you would want at least half of the total length of the slip yoke inside the box.
    If this is in a commodore what are your driveline angles like?

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    have you checked that the rubber gasket that sits below the shifter housing is not leaking?

    When that leaks it can look like a leaking output seal.

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    i had the same issue when i 1jz/r154 my hilux , i tryed everything to fix , tighter seals , rebush output shaft , 2x seals .. still did it .. i think it has something to do with alignment of the box,motor,tailshaft.

    i ended up just putting in a getrag 6 speed ( that fixed it ~!!)

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    Thanks JP I'll have to get under her and have another good look, and as for the drive line angles...I believe there pretty good, but again something else I will investigate.

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    I'm pretty sure the yoke that fits into the R154 is not tapered, I remember it looking a bit precarious when I installed it. That oil seal really is the only thing that does the job so if the problem doesnt turn out to be elsewhere then theres no choice but to remove it and clean it up and try again

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    Seals need good surfaces to be mounted in and to run on, and also need to have a minimum amount of shaft movement.
    Bad tailshaft bearing? New seals have a lot of flexibility so the bearing would have to be pretty sloppy to leak.
    Also, the splines on some yokes aren't machined in a blind hole, but go all the way through & have a welsh/core/freeze plug that keeps the lube in.
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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    is there any scoring where the seal touches on the yoke??
    Try a speedy sleeve if there is.

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    Matty12 any more details about the speedy sleeve?

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    Default Re: R154 Gearbox Leaking from rear shaft seal

    Thanks Wilbo666 will let you know how I get on

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