Ke70 4age

[beige_bandit]

and this is wrong. it is not a bolt on swap over. the fron beaver panel/i think radiator support is differant.

Yep, for some reason there is more room in a ke70 bay so your ae86 radiator wont sit on the radiator support with out some modifications.
but besides that and the hydraulic clutch, custom tailshaft, make sure you,ve got a t-series gearbox crossmember, and your modification to the fuel system(cause she'll be EFI), The conversions like playn with matchbox cars,

But its all a mutch of a mutchness, ke70, ae71, ae86,
KE70 probably marginaly lighter
The best KE70's are the early KE70's with the square front end, you want one of them

Brakes: easy upgrade is the jap ae86 front struts with ventilated disc's on him

[EldarO]

thats pretty much what i had planed to do although i was thinking would it be cheaper to get a AE71, Ke30 frontend and then just drop in a 4AGE?
what tranny/diff is in a AE71? and brakes no use going faster if cant stop faster?

i have a mate with a rusty old sprinter with a nice engine, suspention and all the running gear etc, cost me 3.5K but it has a really nice suspention setup (about 2.5Kworth)
if i was to get a KE70 strip it cut out the rust, spray it and drop in the engine tranny suspention etc, wound it be worth getting a AE71 and just spending the 3.5K (and abit more) on suspention and engine etc?

in the end i want to have a KE30, with a 4AGE, hydralic clutch, T50 tranny, diff i dont car so much about, decent disc brakes and not to much left to try to sell. and i dont wanna spend more than about 7K on it (thats not including small materials and stuff)

what the hell?

do you want a Ke70 sqaure front end with 4age
AE71 slanted front end with 4age

or

ke30 with 4age?

i guarentee you that sticking a ke30 front end on an ae71/le70 will be either a) a pain in the ass, or b) impossible, they're completely different cars!

Eldar.O.

[beige_bandit]

i guarentee you that sticking a ke30 front end on an ae71/le70 will be either a) a pain in the ass, or b) impossible, they're completely different cars!

Eldar.O.

I rekon someone should photoshop these two together cause thats as close to it as he would get,

Not only are they completly different the dimensions are absolutley not compatible, this guys crazy in the coconut.

[merc-blue]

sorry a typo i want the Ke70 front end with 4AGE, but also want the benefits of disc brakes all round and a good tranny

[EldarO]

there are two ke70 front ends, if you want the square one, say you want the square one.

stock ke70s have discs at the front, although crappy, they do the job for the econo purposes the car was designed for.

ideally, read Kev's guide, and to get discs all around youll need to invest in a jap spec disc brake ae86 rear end.

the transmission (T50) will be up to handle a stock 4age, however at higher power levels, they break easier than balsa wood.

im going to go out on a limb here, and tell you that you wont be chasing higher power levels, and the stock 5 speed (T50) will be sufficient.

elabortaing on kevs guide.

you need to convert the ke70 to EFI, high pressure fuel pump and lines
T series rear end
4AGE
ae86 cross member
and an ae86 gearbox/gearbox cross member.

theres a whole lot more involved, once again, its all in kev''s guide. read it.

Eldar.O.

[oldcorollas]

sorry a typo i want the Ke70 front end with 4AGE, but also want the benefits of disc brakes all round and a good tranny

are you talking front end PANELS?

or front end... as in suspension/crossmember/rack etc...

if you want a KE70 looking car, buy a KE70, use AE71 or AE86 crossmember and bits, change rear brakes to disc, use T50 with 4AG, which you will have to do anyway and change to hydraulic clutch
why is it so difficult?

[merc-blue]

it isnt. and yes the thread is pointless. firstly i was just checking if teh AE86 gear into a KE70 was possible. and then people started saying use a AE71 with KE70 pannels.

so my question has been answered.

im pretty much going to follow kevs guide.

Bassicaly Im getting a AE86 with GREAT suspention, engine, etc and want to put as much of the AE86 into the KE70, aslong as its benefitual, will the suspention go over and the diff be worth while?

[The Witzl]

im pretty much going to follow kevs guide.

Take some time to read over my members ride thread on the old forums. My old AE71 i'm still claiming holds the title of "fastest backyarder #E7#-series corolla"..... evah.

I'll get to finishing my complete FAQ article one day soon.... been writing too many RA28/18RG articles and stuff!!

Bassicaly Im getting a AE86 with GREAT suspention, engine, etc and want to put as much of the AE86 into the KE70, aslong as its benefitual, will the suspention go over and the diff be worth while?

These are arbitrary questions.

However....

Suspension - if this AE86 has good suspension, then put it in your KE70/AE71 ftw.
Yes all suspension parts are compatible.

Diff - the stock AE86 diff is poo. Replace with something decent. T series at a minimum. TE72 (aka T-18) corolla liftbacks use a T series diff and T50 g/box, you can use these in your KE70/AE71.... that's what i did!
Yes the diff is compatible.


and a final note - where the hell did you learn english?

[merc-blue]

i learnt english in a goverment school. but spent most of my school time thinking of what i was gonna do when i got out of school.

witzl i will look over your tread ill look into a T series rearend but arent these a PITA to find?

does anyone think that i should spend my 3.5K on a 4AGE ,T50 some crossmembers and conversion bits instead of this AE86 and then stripping and selling the shell? the shocks in the AE86 are Koni Reds (i was sure he said tein last time) internaly adjustable. i think i would rather pay abit more all up (cause i have quite a budget seeing as im doing 99.99% of the work) and get full adjustable coilovers?

[EldarO]

i learnt english in a goverment school. but spent most of my school time thinking of what i was gonna do when i got out of school.

witzl i will look over your tread ill look into a T series rearend but arent these a PITA to find?

does anyone think that i should spend my 3.5K on a 4AGE ,T50 some crossmembers and conversion bits instead of this AE86 and then stripping and selling the shell? the shocks in the AE86 are Koni Reds (i was sure he said tein last time) internaly adjustable. i think i would rather pay abit more all up (cause i have quite a budget seeing as im doing 99.99% of the work) and get full adjustable coilovers?

T series arent hard to find, the one you need is in the T-18, as witzl said, they arent rare, but they dont sit around for sale long, snap one up if you get the chance.

We put a 4age into my mates KE70 for a grand total of around $500.

he bought a crashed jap import ae82 FX-GT, we stripped it, and he made his money back in parts, and we used the engine, fuel pump etc.

Eldar.O.

[chris davey]

How about:

1. ke70
2. hilux diff
3. 20b
4. ???
5. skids

I would like to do this one day anyway

If you want 4age though, the question has been answered. I reckon a 20b is better though

[oldcorollas]

L20B....FTW

[EldarO]

triple rotor = teh p00, renesis = teh p00.

ca18, sr20, fj20, rb20, rb25, rb30 = teh p00

1JZ, 2JZ (no shit!) 7MGTE (teh p00 powah!) and rb26dett for teh win!

Eldar.O.

[merc-blue]

lol ther will be no rotors in my KE. if i had the budget a 1G-GTE maybe. but i would like to keep my toyota a toyota (no rotors or SR20s etc) if i was gonna go a rotor i would just get a RX3 20B turbo bridgport, and wrap it around a pole with my great driving skills.

as it turns out im not gonna be able to get coilovers into a KE70 without major work so Koni Reds, Kingsprings, whiteline strut brace and swaybars and nolathane bushings
will be my suspention
and power comming from a blue top TVIS bigport (or possibly a silvertop 20V ), with cams and high comp pistons, quad throttles (if i can find some) and prossibly a piggyback ECU, T50 tranny, excedy HD clutch (unless some one has better suggestions) and will start searching for a T series diff

whats the go on brakes? can i do somthing similar to the TA22 with front brakes?, i know you can do rear skyline discs (but i probly will just get some good pads)

[ke-70-ge]

hey, your all tosses.

i brought a ae86 for $1000(bet you cant)
put it all in my ke70-
4AGE big port
t50 gearbox
complete rear end
complete front end
had very minor prob's
did it all in 9 days so why all the shit?
also sold the ae86 for $400 so only payed $600.

the whole point of this is that it can be done easily
without all the bullshit that has been said!!!

good luck with it mate