3sgte ae82

[Shifty]

Ok I've done a little research, but there's not a whole lot of stuff out there. It's a tight fit, but I know it goes as there's a picture of one here so that's a good starting point.

Word on the street is that the done thing is to use some type of a Camry box. I assume this would be the box from an SV21 Camry, being a front-drive S-series engine?

From there, the next question is what driveshafts to use. I'm not particularly au fait with front-drive gearboxes, so this is something I'll need help with. Is there some type of OE driveshaft that will suit the Camry box and the whatever-it-is on the AE82 that the driveshafts connect to?

Clutch-wise the starter/flywheel/pressure plate from the 3SGTE would obviously do the trick, and a driven plate to suit the camry input shaft (assuming these are different to 3SGTE).

As far as mounting the engine, are all the blocks effectively interchangeable from different 3SGTEs? Ie. if you mount one can any other one go in later, or are they mounted on a different angle etc in each different vehicle (MR2, Celica, etc)?

Any of these engines would be a hoot in an AE82, but is there any major advantage/disadvantage of a particular generation? Obviously (and from what I've read) the engines improve year by year but is there anything that really sucks about an earlier one?

Wiring wise I should be able to figure it out, I guess...

[JP]

use an SW20 turbo E series box with FWD linkages installed (sourced from a 4agze box or AE95 AWD box), there's a few different combo's of shafts that will work, basically E series shafts with the right hub spline for the AE82. I'd go for a genIII or later engine, unless you plan to rebuild the engine first.

[mattysshop]

Jason -

having said that.. a SV21 box will hold up just fine.. especially in such a light car..

a mate of mine is running one in a rebuilt/forged 3SGTE (terry from R&track), garret GT25R, motec, at about 285fwhp on CNJ's dyno with a beefy clutch.. aside from being a little crunchy from constant thrashing and 7500+ rpm flat shift.. the box, and shafts have held up fine..

BUT as were going to be swapping it out soon, were most likely to upgrade to an E box from a SVD/VDV camry, or ST18X celica..

but for $70 a box from the wreckers for an SV21 box.. it hasn't been a problem, as they are a peice of p!ss to change in a ST162.. (can't be said for a AE82 i fear with this combo lol)

we bought 2 of them but after 2 years were still yet to replace one!

[wagonist]

E series Camry V6 box from 1MZ bolts directly onto 3S-GTE (basically same box as MR2 turbo but with the shift linkages on the right way)
It also has bigger CVs than SV21.

there is another conversion on here somewhere, I think it was a case of customing front shafts from Corolla to get the length & splines to suit the inner CVs required for the new running gear.

[Shifty]

Jason -

having said that.. a SV21 box will hold up just fine.. especially in such a light car..

a mate of mine is running one in a rebuilt/forged 3SGTE (terry from R&track), garret GT25R, motec, at about 285fwhp on CNJ's dyno with a beefy clutch.. aside from being a little crunchy from constant thrashing and 7500+ rpm flat shift.. the box, and shafts have held up fine..

BUT as were going to be swapping it out soon, were most likely to upgrade to an E box from a SVD/VDV camry, or ST18X celica..

but for $70 a box from the wreckers for an SV21 box.. it hasn't been a problem, as they are a peice of p!ss to change in a ST162.. (can't be said for a AE82 i fear with this combo lol)

we bought 2 of them but after 2 years were still yet to replace one!

Good to hear the box will hol dup to a reasonable amount of power. Not knowing a lot about these, what shafts would I want for the SV21 box to AE82? Or is there no option but custom?\

[Pimpin_1JZ]

There was one for sale not long ago on here too.

[Shifty]

It's interstate which is a pain, though I'm still interested... but the guy isn't overly enthusiastic about contacting me back so if he doens't hurry up I'm just going to say 'fuckit' and stick to the original 4A plan.

[Shifty]

Spent some time at the wreckers today, I don't reckon it's that hard a conversion.

The front engine mount should just about bolt straight up, and the ones at either side will be straightforward to adapt with a bit of flat plate. From there an appropriate box (apparently SW20 MR2 boxes are all LSD, and one of the two driveshafts fits straight up without any modification... otherwise I'll look into the 4cyl/6cyl Camry options).

[WDE_BDY]

MR2 box will give you shifter issues as connections are on the front of box rather than the rear. Mate did a 3S-GE into an EP71 Starlet, required chassis cutting, mix and match driveshafts and a section of firewall cut out and flipped around for clearance. Relatively straight forward if you are committed to it.

Callum

[Talasas]

use an SW20 turbo E series box with FWD linkages installed (sourced from a 4agze box or AE95 AWD box), there's a few different combo's of shafts that will work, basically E series shafts with the right hub spline for the AE82. I'd go for a genIII or later engine, unless you plan to rebuild the engine first.

How easy is it to change the linkages from the MR2 to a FWD setup? I ask because I can get my hands on an AW11 E series for my AE92 and I'd consider it if this is a matter of sourcing linkage parts and not changing gearbox casings etc.

[JP]

if you use the FWD linkages from an AE92 or AE101 E series box, you dont have any shift issues using an MR2 box. The SW20 turbo boxes aren't all LSD either.

[wagonist]

if you use the FWD linkages from an AE92 or AE101 E series box, you dont have any shift issues using an MR2 box. The SW20 turbo boxes aren't all LSD either.

And almost none of the NA SW20 boxes are LSD. I think the NA boxes are still an S series, whereas the turbo one are E series.
There are threads about people who used the SW20 turbo box in FWD config, where they've changed the linkages over as well.

[Shifty]

Ok well I just spent a couple of hours getting the 4AGE ready to come out tomorrow night.

Will be needing to make a decision soon

[Shifty]

Ok well I've made a fair bit of progress

[Matty P]

Is that a Gen III or Gen IV 3S-GTE?

Nice work BTW