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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    Haven't looked further into getting a bracket made to suit the RA40 idler yet. If I get it done, it will probably be a case of have the shaft machined to suit, having the existing shaft machine removed from the bracket, and have a boilermaker weld the new shaft to the existing bracket. Rest assured that the shaft will be Autocad drawn, and the drawing/procedure will be made available to all.
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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    i got inner and outer tie rod ends and pitman arm from repco 4 about $30 total 2 months ago as they r changing brand and getting rid of old stock

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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    also i bought 1 extra inner tie rod end if any 1 is interested?

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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    Quote Originally Posted by TheToyman75 View Post
    Simon,

    You cant even buy the 555 TA22 or RA23/8 idler arms in Japan anymore let alone over here.
    Rod,
    Not sure about the idler arm, but I bought 555 ball joints and tie rod ends only about 2 months ago....

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    Idler arm was always the hard to get part. Never seen a TA/RA 23/28 item other than 555 available for sale new... ball joints, tie rod ends and pitman arm are all the same part numbers are RA40, thus easy to get.
    Cheers, Owen
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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    Simon,

    As Oman mentioned the only hard to get part is the Idler arms.
    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
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    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
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    Hi I service your old steering joints and give a like new warratee I even redo brand new joints for performance applications
    because after all the standard parts are mass produced at a price. questions call Inject-a-Joint 0408 752 070
    I hope this helps someone.

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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    Regarding tubes, I couldn't find replacement tubes for my original bent 22 ones, so had to have them fabricated.

    The idler arm for a 22 is often given the same part number as the 23/28/40 at suspension shops, but it won't fit. Took me lots of trial and error to track down the correct one, I just wish I could remember what that was...
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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    SX4239 was the TA22, while SX4246 was for the 23/28. Both are now listed as no longer available in the May edition of the Roadsafe catalogue (Australian reseller for 555 components). I am going to have to get an RA40 unit and modify the base of the RA28 unit to make it fit. Seeing as EVERY other joint in the RA28 is the same as the RA40, this will work. And no, I won't be re-packing the ball with urethane. I will, however, drill and tap a grease nipple in if one is not already fitted to the new joint.
    Cheers, Owen
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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    This is an old thread but since it just got a revival here is the long and Skinny of the Classic Celica Steering parts in question. Most parts lists are incorrect which is not surprising since most people don't realise a TA22 is not a TA23 or an RA23. The guys at OEM however have the best listing I have ever seen, cause its actually correct (if you ignore the TE23 bit) !



    Thats Page 113 of the Listing. The full listing can be found here:
    2005 PAJA Listing

    yes I downloaded it and re-hosted it so it doesn't get "updated" and lost forever.

    TA22

    Idler - SX4239
    Pitman Arm - SX5240 or 555 Brand SX1240 - (130mm long)
    Outer Tie Rod End - TE489L
    Inner Tie Rod End - TE490R (183mm Long)
    Lower Ball Joint - BJ145

    TA23, RA23, RA28

    Idler - SX4246
    Pitman Arm - SX5241 (140mm long)
    Outer Tie Rod End - TE489L
    Inner Tie Rod End - TE564R (170mm long)
    Lower Ball Joint - BJ145

    As you can see the TA22 does not share many bits with the other Classic Celica's. But at least this way you will be hunting for the right parts !

    As a note all the aftermarket company's generally use the same part numbers but the 555 brand use a different part number for the TA22 Pitman Arms, instead of SX5240, they are SX1240 - either part is very hard to come by.
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    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    hey, i havent read the whole thread yet, but Sss autos is a wholesale autos place in melb that can get most aftermarket parts very cheap an post almost anywhere, i use them a lot, hope that helps

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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    Rod,

    The OEM catalogue looks identical to the RoadSafe one - same font, same pictures, same shadings. Didn't check the pitman arm part numbers as the RA units are easy to get... (and I don't have to worry about snub nose Celica parts )

    If OEM are still stocking idler arms though, I am all ears.
    Cheers, Owen
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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    No Joy on 23/28 Idler arms Oman.

    If i could find a collection of them Id be a much happier man. Some TA22 ones popped up on eBay earlier this week but sold out in about 24hrs.
    1971 2T-B Celica TA22 ST.
    1973 2T-G Celica TA22, aka "The Unicorn".
    1975 2T-G Celica TA27 GT
    1976 2T-G Celica TA23, aka "The Colonel".
    1985 3F Auto FJ62 Landcruiser
    1989 7M-GTE MA70 Supra, aka "The Poopra"

    History: Rods Classic Celica Sampler thread.

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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    My other option is to get a LHD unit, and put the new arm and bushes onto my existing shaft.
    Cheers, Owen
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    Default Re: TA22: Tie Rod ends/Ball Joints, etc - OEM vs After Market

    Would it be worth investigating getting some manufactured? If there is enough demand someone may do a small run...

    I was at an Aftermarket Expo two weeks ago and collected some information from a Thai supplier of suspension components.

    Would any one run these parts if theyappeared to be good quality, or would it be a little too frightening to put in your pride and joy and its therefore Japanese or nothing?
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