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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    That's a bloody great deal, keep in touch for sure. Just out of curiosity, how much for the kit without:

    All plumbing
    Aluminium 6 rib waterpump pulley (I'm using EWP)
    Throttle body

    Just curious, because that would suit my needs perfectly.

    RM.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonRob
    Benjamin,
    Just so you know, I am doing my first run of 5 for the Aw11. Price is 3650Aus, while the Corollas should be slightly less as piping from outlet of s/c to intercooler will need to be made. Piping from Throttle body to afm will need to be made unless you are map based in which a filter can go on the end of the blower. I can do the same for the 2087 blower if that is prefered.
    Kit details:

    Big Blower with self contained oil system (400hp capable)
    Big Blower bracket
    Big Blower plumbing and piping to stock intercooler and stock afm (Only Aw11)
    New spring loaded tensioner and bracket relocation
    Aluminum 6 rib crank pulley
    Aluminum 6 rib water pump pulley
    Performance bypass valve
    Performance throttle body
    Belts and hardware.


    5 rib pulley configuration that our 4agze uses will cause slipage. Cogged is an option but very expensive. I am running cogged on the 2087.

    Ron

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    Nick,
    Yes the bracket is dependent on the s/c manifold and is adjustable to fit a 4agze and a 7agze. We have the Bigger Blower fitted to a 7agze now. I am not using an egt, just a wideband. I believe it is time to start thinking outside of the box. The s/c manifold has already been proven to make 300rwhp. My plugs have never shown me any reason to doubt the manifold. It seems as if all the turbo guys choose to use the n/a manifold and I am not convinced it is the best option for the Twinscrew. I will have more dyno plots soon to support the s/c manifolds power capabilites. In my opinion it is not the manifold that does not help the stock s/c12 as it is the surrounding inefficiencies.

    Benjamim,
    Good luck with your Twinscrew setup. Keep in mind I have not posted pictures of the Bigger Blower mounted only the 2087. Also keep in mind that you can not use the 5 rib pulleys successfully on the 2087. You Should not use the stock tensioner design as it is not spring loaded. Then there is the bracket design, inlet and outlet design as well as the proper oiling. How much have you spent now? I have made many mistakes with design and blown a few blowers as a result. My kit is made at the expense of my mistakes so no one has to go through what I did. I hope you do not feel I am pulling your leg on this. My efforts made to share with 4agze owners because no body gives a rat ass about the 4agze which is why no one cares to make anything for us. My goal is to have a bolt on kit for the 4agze and hope fellow owners will support my efforts as I have over 10k US in R&D so I did not do this just to show and tell. Impossible in my eyes to recoop the funds I have spent over the years and I knew that from the beginning, but it would be great for fellow 4agze owners to give me support if they choose to go Twinscrew. You will not regret it.


    Mullett, are you saying that you are going to want the kit with no TB? So then you are going to use your own TB with Inlet design as well as make the 4agze Tps adapter yourself? That will not be a problem but I think you might spend more in the end and I can not warrant work that is not ours. I think I could do it without the water pump pulley perhaps, but the system is designed to work a certain way. I would hate to sell something half assed and then somthing goes wrong and the kit is not worthy in your eyes and others. Kit is well priced and in my opinion there is nothing else on the market as a bolt on kit for any vehicle that can double your horsepower output for the same dollar amount. Price I quoted for Aw11's is an initial 5 in which one offs for Aw11's will be 3200US. I figure about 150-200 US difference in price for Rollas. I could include anyone interested in the first batch of 5 with Aw11 owners or at anytime do a batch of five for corollas at the discounted rate.

    Thanks guys
    Ron
    Last edited by RonRob; 06-05-2006 at 03:48 AM.

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    RonRob
    What would you sell the mounting brackets for (for the 2087)?

    Could you possibly let me know individual pricing for the following items? (also for the 2087)

    -Mounting bracket
    -SC Inlet and outlet
    -6 rib crank and water pump pulley

    I believe I can source everything else locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjamin
    RonRob
    What would you sell the mounting brackets for (for the 2087)?

    Could you possibly let me know individual pricing for the following items? (also for the 2087)

    -Mounting bracket
    -SC Inlet and outlet
    -6 rib crank and water pump pulley

    I believe I can source everything else locally.

    I think it would be best to sell the kit as a whole. Mounting bracket requires a different tensioner design in which the stock one is not suitable. Tb matches the Inlet design and uses the factory Tps sensor. I feel that it might be difficult to imagine the entire setup and everything it consists of. With that said selling the kit as a whole is the recommended way.

    Thanks
    Ron

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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    Stew would be loving this thread!

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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    Here is 21psi slightly tuned. Had to cut it short due to ignition issues. Just shy of 200kw




    Ron

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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    what were the ignition issues ignition issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron_Datto
    what were the ignition issues ignition issues?
    Not for sure, but I think it has to due with the wiring. Really need to make a new harness for the standalone.


    Ron

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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    now that this has turned into a twinscrew thread

    is there any reason why the SC manufacturers don't recommend the use of an electric clutch?
    given that the problem of overheating on cruise has been acknowledged... why not turn it off during cruise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas
    now that this has turned into a twinscrew thread

    is there any reason why the SC manufacturers don't recommend the use of an electric clutch?
    given that the problem of overheating on cruise has been acknowledged... why not turn it off during cruise?
    No reason for a clutch what so ever with the Twinscrew. The design is critical to the overall performance and life of the Twinscrew.
    Just for reference, I live very close to Kenne Bells shop

    Ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonRob
    Here is 21psi slightly tuned. Had to cut it short due to ignition issues. Just shy of 200kw




    Ron

    Top effort m8!!!

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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    I'm impressed!

    Certainly makes the SC12 look like the supercharger that can't! heh.


    I'm quite concerned now about what people have said about them overheating on cruise... especially since I don't know what has been done with my GZE in the rolla, as far as ABV mod is concerned, or other things.. Because I'm not entirely sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonRob
    No reason for a clutch what so ever with the Twinscrew. The design is critical to the overall performance and life of the Twinscrew.
    Just for reference, I live very close to Kenne Bells shop

    Ron
    totally agree.. however... if it's not spinning... it can't overheat at cruise..... simple safety factor by removal
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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    Thanks guys! This is the thread that encouraged me in regards to how robust the 4agze really is.

    I have never seen the Twinscrew overheat at cruise and do not know where these facts come from. I suppose an improper design could cause this or something similar. I have blown blowers on flawed designs, mainly due to a lack of support for properly setting up the Twinscrew. Just the countrary, I have very low outlet temps while cruising. I have recorded temps on the outlet at 265F during hot days at hard 21psi runs. 10 seconds after these runs the outlet temps drop 100F!
    Setup proplery these Screws Blow!


    Ron

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    Default Re: Breaking a GZE piston or rod

    Damn... this thread certainly did take a turn to something else!! I'm going to have to spilt it apart now!!


    All discussion of twinscrew setup has been copied into this thread, please continue that talk there: http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7026
    Last edited by The Witzl; 16-05-2006 at 11:19 AM.
    ...... butt scratcher?!


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