AE86 into TA22

**stidnam** · 10-01-2009, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by sauceman

So are you saying that there will not be a problem changing the whole unit over?

If you can measure the stub axle angles of both stuts to see if there is any difference do so and see what impact it will have. If not and you are prepared to pay a bit more and get camber tops then you'll be sweet and you can set up a bit of negative camber.

You might change the KPI by using camber tops and how effect this will have in the real world is unknown. All I can say is that I am mostly happy with my change to the ae86 struts. I am only not happy with my spring/shock combo and there is a bit of a sharp transition point in the steering which I am sure if from the toe settings.

If the gear is cheap then give it a try. At least you will know and if it doesn't work out for you then you could always resell the gear.

Good luck.

**Celica RA45** · 10-01-2009, 08:38 PM

joe 90 you cant just use the axles and diff and hope that it will fit into a ta22 rear end
as 1 the ae86 disc brake rear uses a dual race bearing which is about 45mm compared to the ta22 which is 20mm
2 so you will have to set up the ae86 and check the 22 to see what is different in the rear ends .most likely pick up points like rear control arms and spring seated posi and also may be shocker points as well
on the front struts with discs and calipers check the lower balljoints on the 2 where they bolt up to the lower arms if they are the same then use the ae86struts with ta22 tops and use the ta22 lower arm and steering rod unless you are going to put a ae86 rack in as well then use the ae86 lower steering arms

**Norminator** · 10-01-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Celica RA45

2 so you will have to set up the ae86 and check the 22 to see what is different in the rear ends .most likely pick up points like rear control arms and spring seated posi and also may be shocker points as well

the ae86 t-series in my sprinter lived in a ta22 prior to coming into my possession... the diff is standard and both cars were unmodified chassis-wise, so it should be fine.

**Rat-a-tat-tat** · 15-01-2009, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by stidnam

Also need to use the AE86 steering knuckles as it wont bolt onto the TA22 ones.

Bum. I'm in the process of doing this, but didn't know that AE86 knuckles were required - and I don't have any

I assume they are a larger bore for the track rod end, otherwise I could open out the TA22 items ??

(first post by the way - hello everyone

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**stidnam** · 15-01-2009, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Rat-a-tat-tat

Bum. I'm in the process of doing this, but didn't know that AE86 knuckles were required - and I don't have any

I assume they are a larger bore for the track rod end, otherwise I could open out the TA22 items ??

(first post by the way - hello everyone

)

No it is not because the tie rods ends wont bolt up it is because the spacing between the two bolts that hold and locate it onto the bottom of the strut are different between the 22 and the AE86.

You can source aftermarket power steering knuckles from T3 in the states which would also give you more lock. Look here

**RobertoX** · 15-01-2009, 11:59 AM

You can also buy brand new AE86 PS knuckles for a reasonable price

Toyota > T3 IMO

**Rat-a-tat-tat** · 16-01-2009, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by stidnam

No it is not because the tie rods ends wont bolt up it is because the spacing between the two bolts that hold and locate it onto the bottom of the strut are different between the 22 and the AE86.

You can source aftermarket power steering knuckles from T3 in the states which would also give you more lock. Look here

Excellent, that solves the problem easy then. I've seen how good the T3 products are; a friend recently used Gabriell's top camber plates on his RA28 GT when we modded and rebuilt his front suspension.

Shame the UK pound isn't as strong against the dollar as it was last year.

**RobertoX** · 16-01-2009, 12:03 PM

The threads stripped out on my T3 adjustable strut top

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**Rat-a-tat-tat** · 16-01-2009, 05:48 PM

What threads ? You should contact the guy - he is very helpful.

**RobertoX** · 16-01-2009, 06:15 PM

The thread in the plate with the bearing, these are the ones that the "clamp" screws screw into. There were spare tapped holes so I just used one of those and the car has since been sold.
Ally can only be loaded up so many times I guess.

Anyway, the point of my post was that if the aftermarket arms don't offer anything functionally over the Toyota ones then the Toyota ones would be better. Toyota have some intense testing that they do to check the strenght and durability of their parts.

**Rat-a-tat-tat** · 16-01-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by RobertoX

Anyway, the point of my post was that if the aftermarket arms don't offer anything functionally over the Toyota ones then the Toyota ones would be better. Toyota have some intense testing that they do to check the strenght and durability of their parts.

Yes fair point. Availability of used parts for AE86 over here is slim - I did well to get the struts. So aftermarket will solve the potential long hunt for OEM arms, but I'll see whats about before I buy.

Thanks

**Rat-a-tat-tat** · 19-01-2009, 02:18 AM

Today I test fitted my AE86 struts to my TA22 steering knuckles and they fit perfect.

**web** · 13-02-2009, 03:10 AM

Minor threadjack -> I seem to remember a steering arm length database somewhere but can't find it anymore! Anyone have the link?

(Not talking about the LCA database!)