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    heyas,

    I have a p-type ma61, originally had an LSD, but has been changed to an open (as i was told by previous owner) but i have my doubt of whether it is open or LSD, because, at low speeds i cant get the diff to 'LSD' but i can bust it around corner as if it was an Lsd, i can also make it step out like an lsd from a standstill....i think it may be a worn out clutch-type lsd, but is there anyway of confirming this?? i have a steep driveway and accidently baked it up going up it after stalling it (dumbass) and it left 2 tracks, thats wat made me think today that it was LSD, i have taken it out in the wet and only got the inside to bake up..

    which again makes me think that it is a worn out clutch type, any advice on getting the true story??

    i dont want to open it up either, and, have been told that jacking it up and spinning the wheels doesnt work if it is clutch type!

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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    Quote Originally Posted by woggin
    i dont want to open it up either, and, have been told that jacking it up and spinning the wheels doesnt work if it is clutch type!

    thanxs
    wog
    Should work for clutch...

    Doesn't work for torsen IIRC


    But seriously, if you really want to know, there aren't that many bolt holding on the rear cover... and then you will know for sure

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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    i really wanna know if i have some tomato sauce in my fridge, i dont want to open it up, ive been told if i can spin the fridge around you can tell.

    can some one help me?

    dude its like 8 bolts and some gasket sealant. maximum 30mins stuffing about.
    - ma61 + 2jz-gte + v160 + 3.5 torsen

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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    mine did the same thing, i had a stock clutch type lsd and yeah in the wet the one wheel would just go crazy which really pissed me off... But in the dry with 4 people in the car it left 2 black marks on the road and stepped out. i gatherd that my lsd was worn out or just not that great, so i replaced it with a proper one

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob
    i really wanna know if i have some tomato sauce in my fridge, i dont want to open it up, ive been told if i can spin the fridge around you can tell.

    can some one help me?

    dude its like 8 bolts and some gasket sealant. maximum 30mins stuffing about.
    i don't think its that easy dude, depends on the equipment u have but id say u would have to take the whole diff out, drain oil, check, seal, thread lock and torque bolts up etc, replace oil and shit...then put the complete diff back in lol. id say around 1-2h of stuffing around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaserbuddy
    i don't think its that easy dude, depends on the equipment u have but id say u would have to take the whole diff out, drain oil, check, seal, thread lock and torque bolts up etc, replace oil and shit...then put the complete diff back in lol. id say around 1-2h of stuffing around.
    its an f series diff, u take off the back plate, look, put plate back on and fill with oil, thats it.
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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    Quote Originally Posted by chaserbuddy
    i don't think its that easy dude
    No, it really is as easy as rob says!

    Oh my, this looks sooooo hard

    http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...ection=RA&P=18



    Edit: And what is this P type crap... it isn't the USA... we only got the one type of MA61 over here

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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    I was about to say, I haven't seen any aus spec ma61's with factory leather

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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    never said it was hard, just not as easy as rob said...

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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    Quote Originally Posted by chaserbuddy
    never said it was hard, just not as easy as rob said...
    Quote Originally Posted by chaserbuddy
    i don't think its that easy dude
    u say you dont THINK its that easy, which means you've never done it before, so how is it you feel u can comment on this?

    it IS as easy as rob said, how does he know? he's done it before OMG

    i know i know, ive just blown everyone's mind stating something based on fact and experience.... especially in the tech section and especially during school holidays

    anyways arguments like this have no place in the tech section so i'll leave it at that.

    Thanks to Wilbo for the pics too.
    - ma61 + 2jz-gte + v160 + 3.5 torsen

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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    Just a word of warning, before you remove the cover, make sure you can remove the filler plug/bolt.
    Its a prick of a bolt and if you can't remove it, then you can't easily refill it.
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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    Quote Originally Posted by chaserbuddy
    never said it was hard, just not as easy as rob said...
    I'd have a rant, but I think Rob already did a pretty good job

    If you think it is too hard... maybe it is time to start walking? (I kids! )...



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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    Quote Originally Posted by wilbo666

    Edit: And what is this P type crap... it isn't the USA... we only got the one type of MA61 over here

    Cheers
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    i was told the 'P' meant Performance, which was 5m-e (HAHAHA) and a w58 with LSD!


    i think ill do my g/box oil tomorrow, then ill do the diff aswell, and recommendations??

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    so when i crack the back off, i should see the center(aduh) and im guessing the center will be huge(if LSD) and will i be able to see all the plates and that sorta stuff (if it is LSD) if not itll just the be the center with spider gears and thats about it, yea??

    i have VMX80 for the gearbox and a bottle of SAF-XA 80w-140 Limited Slip oil (if LSD), if it aint, wat do i put in it???

    cheers
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    Default Re: ma61, toasted LSD??

    Quote Originally Posted by rob
    i really wanna know if i have some tomato sauce in my fridge, i dont want to open it up, ive been told if i can spin the fridge around you can tell.

    can some one help me?
    thats not the same type of scenario...

    wat would be is:

    i just bought this 2nd hand fridge, there is a possibility that there is tomato sauce inside it, but i dont want to open it up, etc.

    because i didnt change the diff, previous owner did, he told me it was open, but for reasons listed in first post i think its LSD!

    anyways!

    if it is clutch type LSD, how would i go about shimming it up/tightening it up/living with it!

    thanxs
    wog
    Current: 94 jzs147 aristo, 92 ep82gt starlet
    Prev: ma61, gz20, jza70, uzz31, ncp10r, 92 sw20r
    And the winner of the big car race is......HOT ROD ZOIDBERG!

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