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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    I have a blitz ID3 dual solenoid on the drift car, arguably the best on the market

    its never spiked, it has a screen with a graph so u can look back over the last half a minute or so and see your response and boost level. has a safety cut so if it does spike, it cuts the boost to a set level to prevent it happening.

    pair it with the blitz power meter and you can even set boost by speed.

    they are around $500 secondhand now.

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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    This is the approach I looked at Stitty, the eBoost2 was able to replace my boost gauge (which I sold). It also meant I could mount it in a gauge pod on the dash, so access to boost changes, peak boost, peak RPM etc. was all at my fingertips. The other awesome thing was the shift buzzer, although that may probably be a moot point if you're going auto.
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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    yeah I thought of that with the eboost 2 but I hate to say it came down to looks.

    I don't really have a pod as such and the guage just doesn't look the old school look I want.

    the 1/4 din of the Blitz will take up where my Turbo timer is and blend sort of into the dash
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    Makes sense Stealth has its place too
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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    in my opinion it just looks at little tacky and really rice. I just like the minimalistic i almost want to set and forget really.
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    It was set next to a digital dash, it didn't really look out of place
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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    I was originally torn between the ease/reputation of the e-boost2, and the price of the DIY Jaycar kit, but I'm now seriously contemplating one of these.

    http://hybrid-power.com/HDi%20CD/web/HDi%20EBC-R.html

    I don't seem to be able to find many people talking about using them (probably cos they are new), but they seem to come with everything included.

    Admittedly they look very simple (no mapping - just a max boost level) and don't have a boost readout (but I already have an Autometer gauge) so I think it'll do.

    RRP is $180, but this place "appears" to have them for $150, but the words don't seem to line up with the pictures, so there may be some mistake.

    http://www.amecautocare.com.au/Boostcontrol.htm

    Anyone used one yet?

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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    jaycar kits have problems with peak hold injectors, took me ages to figure out why i couldnt get a consistance injector pulse reading from my jaycar kit. theres a small note in the instructions which states that if you have peak hold inejctors you need an additional converter thingy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbosaurus
    I was originally torn between the ease/reputation of the e-boost2, and the price of the DIY Jaycar kit, but I'm now seriously contemplating one of these.

    http://hybrid-power.com/HDi%20CD/web/HDi%20EBC-R.html

    I don't seem to be able to find many people talking about using them (probably cos they are new), but they seem to come with everything included.

    Admittedly they look very simple (no mapping - just a max boost level) and don't have a boost readout (but I already have an Autometer gauge) so I think it'll do.

    RRP is $180, but this place "appears" to have them for $150, but the words don't seem to line up with the pictures, so there may be some mistake.

    http://www.amecautocare.com.au/Boostcontrol.htm

    Anyone used one yet?

    Cheers,
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    Comparing the e-boost 2 and the jaycar kit is like comparing smiley-devon and wagyu beef.

    That HDi thing looks ok but the information is severely lacking. I'm guessing it's nothing more than a PWM controller regulated by that dial from what I can see in the pics. Does the unit itself reference boost at all? Can't see anything to say it does. If it is nothing more than an adjustable PWM controller just make you own from a jaycar kit and buy a hobbs switch and BA falcon turbo solenoid and you'll have the same outcome for much less cash.

    I've been using a Gizzmo unit for a while now and on two different turbos and it's been great. My only gripe with the unit is the LED readout can be difficult to read in full sun light.

    Very easy to use and install, easy to change between the 4 boost settings, easy to adjust the settings etc.

    I picked mine up on special from Autobarn for about $230 or so.

    If I had cash to burn I'd get an eboost 2 but I can't fault the performance of my Gizzmo unit at about 1/3 the price.
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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    Well, you'd never really "compare" them... but I was trying to decide whether to go the cheap option, or the easy option

    I first saw the EBC-R in the latest FF&R magazine (honestly, I only bought it because it's jam packed with old 'yotas ) and this is what the ad said...

    While the humble bleed tap is more often than not adequate for mild street cars, there are few applications that won't benefit from the fitment of a high quality electronic boost controller such as this item from HDI.

    Offering rock-solid boost control, reliabilty and in-cabin adjustment, there is little argument that an electronic controller is alway better than a mechanical one, but until now price has always been a limiting factor.

    Entering on cue is the HDI EBC-R, which has been designed with flexibility, strength, value and simplicity in mind. It features a high quality Motorola pressure sensor, 100psi approved solenoid and is capable of controlling boost up to 30psi above atmospheric pressure - not bad at all for just $180. Isn't it time you upgraded your boost controller?


    It features a high quality Motorola pressure sensor
    This implies it does reference boost.

    I'm guessing (hoping) it does exactly what the eboost2 does ie: senses MAP and leaves the solenoid closed until it gets very close to the desired pressure. Maybe using some sort of closed looped control system to try and prevent overshoot.

    It just doesn't have the pretty pushbuttons or pressure display.
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    PS - i also have a gizzmo IBC
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbosaurus
    Well, you'd never really "compare" them... but I was trying to decide whether to go the cheap option, or the easy option

    I first saw the EBC-R in the latest FF&R magazine (honestly, I only bought it because it's jam packed with old 'yotas ) and this is what the ad said...

    While the humble bleed tap is more often than not adequate for mild street cars, there are few applications that won't benefit from the fitment of a high quality electronic boost controller such as this item from HDI.

    Offering rock-solid boost control, reliabilty and in-cabin adjustment, there is little argument that an electronic controller is alway better than a mechanical one, but until now price has always been a limiting factor.

    Entering on cue is the HDI EBC-R, which has been designed with flexibility, strength, value and simplicity in mind. It features a high quality Motorola pressure sensor, 100psi approved solenoid and is capable of controlling boost up to 30psi above atmospheric pressure - not bad at all for just $180. Isn't it time you upgraded your boost controller?




    This implies it does reference boost.

    I'm guessing (hoping) it does exactly what the eboost2 does ie: senses MAP and leaves the solenoid closed until it gets very close to the desired pressure. Maybe using some sort of closed looped control system to try and prevent overshoot.

    It just doesn't have the pretty pushbuttons or pressure display.

    Sounds ok from those specs.

    You'd hope it has zero built in gain though as non adjustable gain above 0 can be a pain on some engine / turbo combos regardless of how good the unit is (hence why it's adjustable on most units).

    Be nice to know what you are actually adjusting with that knob, if it is the target boost then it would probably be a nice little bit of gear.

    Get one and tell us all how it goes Timbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by YLD-16L
    Get one and tell us all how it goes Timbo
    But I dun wonna play da guinnea pig...


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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    I have a great idea!

    Sell me that built 1g, the you can use the funds from that to buy a range of top quality EBC's and tell us which is the best!

    How could you not take me up on such a deal?
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