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    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    LOL yeah not much err 'cruising' on the way to Dubbo....well not once you pass Mitches slow arse

    towing this year this...a bit lame but i need the clutch to last a bit longer yet and there's enough stop start to add serious wear
    Cool, you can carry some of my gear then
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    Quote Originally Posted by YLD-16L
    Cool, you can carry some of my gear then
    No dramas, plenty of room between the wagon and trailer...probably squeeze the rolla into the glovebox

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    No dramas, plenty of room between the wagon and trailer...probably squeeze the rolla into the glovebox

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    I've lost a lot of useful luggage space since fitting fixed back seats. The only real problem I am going to have is with the two spare wheels for the rear for the khana, no way I'm destroying another set of decent tyres this year.

    Your car or the rolla wagon will be good, bevvies will be forthcoming.
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    Same, will smoke my almost bald Pirelli P Zeros i the khana this year....apparent a different venue with better surface though, TBC???
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustenGT8
    Same, will smoke my almost bald Pirelli P Zeros i the khana this year....apparent a different venue with better surface though, TBC???

    I'll plan for the worst and hope for hot mix.
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    As i thought, there's no advantage to running the dual port WG setup for a well optimised system.

    It's used in sub optimal systems (read most) where the PR between boost and exhaust manifold pressure isn't great so extra assistant is needed to help stop the gate cracking.

    For my setup he said just using the bottom port is the way to go for sure.

    If i go a try to run 25psi through my tight turbines then i could milk a bit more out of the setup by using the dual port but very much a bandaid solution....better to build a setup that works properly (ie 1:1 PR or as close as you can get).

    Could be one of the reasons why the twin charge setup didn't make the power you'd think it would have?
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    Spoke to HDi, and it was difficult to avoid the sales brochure talk. I don't care if the "microprocessor can handle 40million transactions a sceond" or the "solenoid can handle 100psi"... all that means squat if the implementation was careless.

    He didn't seem to know why, but thinks that the EBC-R is either on or off... i'm guessing it gets to boost threshold and just fully opens the solenoid. That seems really silly, and if it's the case I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

    The other option they have is the something-something-something-SE, which is more of a closed loop system that regulates pressure to the gate. It sounded like the only valid option. It cost $299, but could get them for $230 for 10 or more. I'd pay $230, but not $300, and I don't like doing group buys, so I guess i'll look towards the Gizzmo. It appeared to be on special for $249 recently... wonder if it'll get back down to that again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbosaurus
    Spoke to HDi, and it was difficult to avoid the sales brochure talk. I don't care if the "microprocessor can handle 40million transactions a sceond" or the "solenoid can handle 100psi"... all that means squat if the implementation was careless.

    He didn't seem to know why, but thinks that the EBC-R is either on or off... i'm guessing it gets to boost threshold and just fully opens the solenoid. That seems really silly, and if it's the case I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

    The other option they have is the something-something-something-SE, which is more of a closed loop system that regulates pressure to the gate. It sounded like the only valid option. It cost $299, but could get them for $230 for 10 or more. I'd pay $230, but not $300, and I don't like doing group buys, so I guess i'll look towards the Gizzmo. It appeared to be on special for $249 recently... wonder if it'll get back down to that again?
    Anyone that can't answer any details about their own product would signal alarm bells to me, he "thinks" it operates in a particular way

    You can get the MS-IBC for $299, I've not seen that model cheaper than that. The base model Gizzmo IBC can be had for closer to $200, I got mine for $230 from Autobarn.
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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    Quote Originally Posted by YLD-16L
    You can get the MS-IBC for $299, I've not seen that model cheaper than that.
    Quote Originally Posted by ModYourCar.com
    We sold our last 10 Gizzmo MS-IBC Boost Controllers (at the $249 price) in a matter of days - that just goes to show how popular these units are and how great the price was!

    We were able to negotiate a continued special price with Gizzmo but it could expire at any time so get in quick! Unfortunately the $249 price is gone but we still have them pretty cheap at $299! That's still a saving of $130!
    But I don't think anyone has it that cheap anymore. Still sounds like it's worth the $299 though...
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    Just ordered the MS-IBC today, so now is not the time to tell me it's crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by timbosaurus
    Just ordered the MS-IBC today, so now is not the time to tell me it's crap
    If the IBC works well then the MS-IBC would be unreal, if it can't do a good job, not much would, have you checked out the instructions?? It has some really good features and will have great control.
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    Default Re: a GOOD electronic boost control

    dunno abotu GOOD, but megasquirt seems to have a US$38 single solenoid boost control add-on..
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    Quote Originally Posted by coFF33
    i use a 1992 HKS EBC , doesnt spike, set boost levels on the fly its got 3 settings:

    Low High Custom

    i turn a knob (slowly) and smash 3rd on private property to check boost levels.

    IN THE GHETTOOOO

    but hey , it works

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    funny you should mention... i went through this whole thread looking to see if anyone mentioned about using HKS EBC

    i'm currently working on a car that has a newer version of the HKS EBC (has a little box with a button and 2 knobs, and a display screen with 4 buttons), and while it took me an hour to figure out how it worked (i gave up and looked for the manual online) .. and after setting the low and high boost and working out the "scramble" function, i find it annoying..

    1. it only talks in KPa (when the norm is PSI or Bar)
    2. the adjustments i.e. increase in boost is in points, not boost pressure
    3. boost spike commonly occurs
    4. i set the low boost setting to 1.0 bar, checked the gauge and it's peaked to 1.35 bar, which is higher than the high boost setting

    good points are that it's responsive when it works, and actually consistently boosts properly.. and i'm after going through this thread i'm going to look at duty cycles and send fuel + ignition maps to get checked as i've become more inclined to think there's a problem with the setup and tune rather than the EBC itself..

    i'm guessing the HKS EVC isn't value for money when compared to other EBCs?
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