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    My 4agze ae101 ae86 keeps blowing the efi fuse. On the fuse box it says it's a 15 amp module and that kept blowing. So we chucked a 30 amp in it and it was ok for a bit untill it blew.

    I've got a theory. When the fuel is low the fuel pump has to work harder, drawing more current and blowing the fuse. Could this be correct or am I way off? Are there any ways to rectify this problem other than keeping the tank pretty full and driving like a nanny?

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    Ah, how about go looking for a short?? Who wired it up, and what's the job like?

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    what is your fuel pump doing on the efi circuit? put it on a separate circuit

    other than that an internet diagnosis isnt going to be great, how bout some more details hmm?
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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    Conversion was done by toyospares a while ago. Sorry I'm not even 100% sure the fuel pump is on the efi circuit. But it's the efi fuse that keeps blowing so maybe just when it blows my injectors stop.

    Need to figure out why though. I'm going to have a trawl through some wiring diagrams and see if I can make any sense of it
    Sa22c Series 1 rx7, 12a extend port, 900rwkw @ 93,320 rpm sold
    Ra65 celica hatch, 22re with 2.25" exhaust, 500Nm @ 27rpm sold
    Ae86, 4agze, 170Takumi Powers @ 11,000 rpm

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    fuel pump doesn't need to work harder when fuel is low.
    fuel pump should be pulling nowhere near 30 amps.. 10, maybe 15 at max

    look for shorts.
    get an ammeter onto the wires the EFI fuse feeds, and see which one is pulling current.

    if you want to chekc fuel pump first, put ammeter on it. if it is shagged, maybe it could pull that much power, but...

    anything melted? ever had the smell of electonic smoke escaping?
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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    It always seems to happen when I'm putting large load onto the fuel pump. Happend before when i was going WOT. Then now when the fuel has been low.
    Sa22c Series 1 rx7, 12a extend port, 900rwkw @ 93,320 rpm sold
    Ra65 celica hatch, 22re with 2.25" exhaust, 500Nm @ 27rpm sold
    Ae86, 4agze, 170Takumi Powers @ 11,000 rpm

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    maybe pump is not happy and is overheating?

    connect up pump direct to battery (with switch?) with ammeter inline and see what current it is pulling.
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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    Replace the fuse with a nail. That will solve your problems.

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    Quote Originally Posted by gianttomato
    Replace the fuse with a nail. That will solve your problems.
    Make sure it is at least a 50 Nail

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    Quote Originally Posted by wilbo666
    Make sure it is at least a 50 Nail

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    Or, use a crowbar.

    Mercedes test current draw for bosch 950 pump is around 7 amps. If it draws much more (say 10) it's RS. Naturally, a larger pump (say 044) will draw more, but a 950 is a pretty big pump. From memory the pump fuse for the 950 pump is 20A.
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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    a .22 round works good too

    my hilux had this problem for a while, turned out to be a dead fuel pump that kept shorting out.
    i solved it by running on gas and selling the damn thing

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    I've got a feeling its the fuel pump but how can I tell for sure it's busted? I mean it's still working to some extent.
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    Ra65 celica hatch, 22re with 2.25" exhaust, 500Nm @ 27rpm sold
    Ae86, 4agze, 170Takumi Powers @ 11,000 rpm

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    I've got a feeling its the fuel pump but how can I tell for sure it's busted? I mean it's still working to some extent.
    As discussed. Just bridge the fuel pump fuse with your ammeter and see what the current draw is.
    Do this:
    Remove fuse, use multimeter set on at least 20A, attach each of the leads of the multimeter to the fuse box terminals, start the car, observe readout, report results.

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    Default Re: Keep blowing efi fuse

    Can't you just test pump resistance and work it out that way since you know its in a 12V application?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeRoy
    Can't you just test pump resistance and work it out that way since you know its in a 12V application?
    I assume you mean electrical resistance, fair call, but it won't tell you if the prob is a rough bearing causing mechanical resistance and therefore excess current draw.

    I'm not sure what sort of pump the car in question has, but the external bosch types generally get noisy (sort of a heavy hissing) when the bearings are getting tired. They can actually lock up every now and then meaning that no fuel is delivered at all.
    I've "fixed" quite a few by giving them a tap with a hammer to unlock them, allowing the poor bugger stuck on the side of the road to continue home.

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