best advice for ta22 upgrade

[punkture]

okay, now that the 4agze is in and nearly finished, the brakes have been overlooked for too long now. what are the best options to use? and any personal advice would be helpfull, eg.. anyone who has done this and braking performance and lock ups etc..,
i realise i wanna change the diff so perhaps discs on rear is a great idea?

["Z" UTE]

Search before you get flamed my friend. Lotsa info on early Celica brake upgrades on the Classic Celica thread.

cheers Chuck.

[MitchE]

here comes the aroplane!




























http://www.toymods.net/forums/showth...+brake+upgrade

[SeptemberSquall]

lol epic fail

[o_man_ra23]

Also look for the $250 brake upgrade... can be made to work in the TA22.

For the rear, if you stick with F or T series diff, then the RT142 Avante live axle or ST141 Avante rear disks will bolt up without issue.

[punkture]

so i keep my standrad diff then swap the axle with an avante one, then what calipers? avante ones? cheers, i was looking at the p/h/c conversion anyone done this? any 'hidden' nastys in the conversion?

[o_man_ra23]

No... standard diff (unless you have the early model, probably best just to grab an RA23/RA28/RA35 diff and use that - they have thicker axles apparently), use backing plate, discs, callipers from the Avante. You also need to move your shockabsorber mounts inboard a small way, and put a 5mm spacer behind your wheel bearing. There is a thread by GA61XX showing how to do it.

HPC front swap has the problem of callipers often hitting the webbing behind your wheel spokes. Best to find somebody with this conversion already done and try to fit your intended wheels to their car first. For a TA22 you also need to shorten the strut.

["Z" UTE]

Also look for the $250 brake upgrade... can be made to work in the TA22.

For the rear, if you stick with F or T series diff, then the RT142 Avante live axle or ST141 Avante rear disks will bolt up without issue.

Try reading the reply

[punkture]

will search the GA61XX thread, i need to get new wheels anyway as mine are 13" and from memory they dont fit... would this change to 5 spoke or 4 still? any other modifications needed to incorporate discs on rear, eg brake lines and stronger master cyl, or can i just use the 03-07 camry one still?

[o_man_ra23]

brake lines yes - have them made up once all is in place (can be done inexpensively by Pirtek, Enzed or Brakemart), camry cylinder should work a treat. 13's won't fit over the brake upgrades, 14 is a minimum, but check for spoke clearance when using callipers with opposing pistons.

You can have as many spokes as you want... but the brakes I have described all use the same 4 stud pattern that TA22s have (if that's what your talking about)

May I ask:
a) is english your first language??
b) is this the first time you have seen a car??
c) how old are you??

I don't want to seem prude with these questions, but you really do seem to be on a noob level, and have difficulties finding and interpreting the information available to you, so I would rather talk down to your level if need be, rather than talk over the top of you... if you know what I mean.

[punkture]

lol garmmar can sometimes be a bit dodgy, 1) yes english is, 2) im a mechanical engineer trainiee, and still at uni, i know my shit with engines, but a bit unfamiliar with conversions etc involving struts.. (changed turbo and mounted fmic my self etc..on the wrx) and 3) im 19.

okay ill source up some 14" wheels to start priced the struts, pug discs and calipers:

130 for pair struts, 150 pair ln106 calipers, and 270 new dba discs..
fair price??
then machining im assuming i can get it done for 20, and brake lines how much?
-ps step fathers mechanic who is helping me fit everything..

[o_man_ra23]

Ring around for the brake lines. They should be bundy tube (copper coated steel) which needs to be double flared at the ends (not something you can do at home).

You say your a mechanical engineer trainee... do you mean your doing a diploma/traineeship to become a fitter, or do you mean your a student studying to become a mechanical engineer (I am confused a bit, as the term is undergraduate for a student doing a bachelor)

Prices are relative to where you live. I paid $80 for the better RT132 struts with the 2 piston sumitomo callipers. I have seen LN106 callipers go for $40, so somewhere under $100 is probably a better price than $150, and the discs sound about right for new dba's, but I have heard people have troubles getting the dba items in anything thought of as a reasonable time, so please check delivery date when ordering.

[punkture]

im working at GHD as a trainee mech eng/ trainee technical officer similar to work experience but getting paid good =), and i got to uni studying mech engineering, uni sa in particular. yeah i used to work at repco, so i got em through them.. okay ill ring around for the calipers, would an overhaul kit be appropriate? just in case or not really?

[o_man_ra23]

Depends on the vehicle they come from. If it freshly made it to the wrecker, and they look in good order, it probably isn't necessary. It's always advisable to thoroughly inspect and kit callipers if you have any doubt about their integrity though.

Never heard of a trainee engineer... and a trainee technical officer is a design draughtsman (requires a uni diploma to finish the traineeship). Sooo... are you studying for a bachelor (4 year fulltime, or 8 year part time degree), or are you doing a diploma (I think it's 2 years part time)??

[punkture]

ahh some one knows a thing or two, studying 4 years, bach of mech eng (bmech) and yeah your correct about the technical officer, im a draftsman too, but i get to go on site, yeah i didn't think you could be a trainee either, but my sis got me this job, as she knew the preoject manager due to employment as an architect, and i asked for work experience, and got this =)

-im going to pursue the front end as the p/h/c and source some 14" wheels, that hopper stopper kit is that effective for it's price? and suspension isn't really covered, what's the best way around this? swaybars im assuming, and perhaps coilovers? i dont want much body roll thats all, would be dissapointing from a rex to a body rolling ta22 haha