ADR 37 can you help?

[289hilux]

I am trying to find any info on ADR 37.

I have found some info but it is a bit scetchy. It is not currantly listed on the DEIR web site. I need to bring an early engine up to meet this ADR but I dont know how to meet the rule.
This ADR covers things like fuel filler restrictors, charcole canisters, return lines, cat converters, emissions, etc.

The problem is - you have to fit an engine that is of the same year or newer into a vehicle made from 1988 onwards. If the year is 1987 or below the ADR does not apply and you can fit say a 1967 engine no probs.

Can a pre 1988 engine be brought up to meet the requirements of the ADR that changed in 1988. If so what needs to be done.

Can you help?

[CrUZida]

ADR37 applies to cars (or engines, which ever is new) from 1986 to 1997.
ADR37/01 is from 1997 to 2003

You do NOT have to fit a newer engine than the car, BUT you have to make the engine pass the emissions for the year of the car.

Fortunately for those of us with 90's car, the rules didn't change from 1986 to 1997.


With respect to emissions, the easiest way to work it out, is find out which is newer, ie the car or the engine, and then ALL the emissions equipment from which ever is newer MUST be retained in a conversion (ie, all that you've listed up there), and it MUST pass the ADR for that year.

ie, putting a 2002 motor into a 1967 car, you must comply with 2002 emissions (ie, ADR37/01).
Putting a 1995 motor into a 1988 car, you must comply with 1995 emissions (ie, ADR37, which incidently is the same specs for 1988 emissions).

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../emission.aspx

[CrUZida]

Have a read of the NCOP's thread, stickied in this section.
http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7230

[289hilux]

Have a read of the NCOP's thread, stickied in this section.
http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7230

Yes have read both of those. If you search that site for ADR 37 or 37/01 the result is nothing found. MMMM?

The question is though, what is needed to bring say a pre 1980 engine up to meet the ADR 37 if fitted to say a 1989 vehicle?.

Lets say the motor is still in production today in its basic form. When it was originally produced it ran a carby, points, no cat, ran on super.

But in toady's world it has EFI, elec dizzy, runs on premium, runs cats, etc. If you fitted all the new parts to the old engine will it the meet ADR 37. That is what I want to know.

As here in Tass there is not a place to run the tests for emissions.

The perfect example would be the Ford Windsor or Holden V8.
As the basics are old they have just been updated to meet the standards.

Thanks for any info or help.

[FASTFOO]

Talk to the engineer that will do the report on it because it realy comes down to what he thinks rather than what the rules say.
I Would say you need to prove that it meets the standard, but talk to him if he says ok, go for it.
MATT.

P.S. If it needs a test just get a later motor because a certification test is crazy $$$$$$ and the only time it may be worth it is if you are going to do a LOT of them or sell the certification eg. RAWS imports or clubmans.

[WiLo]

isnt there also different rules if its a commercial vehicle?

[FASTFOO]

YEP but still best to talk to the engineer as he is the who will sign it off.
MATT.

P.S. Gee crUZida knows his sheet I have not seen a dud post.
P.P.S not meaning to piss in your pocket crUZ

[289hilux]

isnt there also different rules if its a commercial vehicle?

The rules do differ for commercials. But from what I have read it is mainly with things like, wheels, tyres, GVM,GCM, and towing, etc.
Look here...

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../vsb_ncop.aspx

with rims you can fit up to 50% wider that the biggest one originally fitted by the manufacture for that particular model. As long as the track doesn't change by more than 25mm. This info was given to me by the engineer. So you can leagaly fit 15x10" rims to a Hilux 2wd and fit wider tyres say 295/50 if the manufacture states that is safe. As long as you dont increase the rolling dia by more than 3mm than the original tyres.

[CrUZida]

If you search that site for ADR 37 or 37/01 the result is nothing found. MMMM?

Don't bother searching for ADR's, they don't really tell you anything.
The main thing you need to know are the outputs of the gases, and (after about 6 months of searching) that link above tells you that.

Yes, there are very few places to test for emissions.
Some places (such as NSW) are free!! some places (such as Vic) are $2000!!!! SA is around $700.

All the (non superseded) ADR's are available online here.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...dr_online.aspx

Unfortunately ADR37 has been replaced with ADR79, so you can no longer view it.

If you do find a copy somewhere, I wouldn't mind a quick read. But after reading ADR79, I don't think I'll learn anything important from ADR37.


In my experience, if you put a stock motor in, with all its factory electronics and emissions gear, and its built in the same ADR period as your car (or a new period), then they won't ask for an emissions test.
If you put an older motor in, then you'll have to prove it passes emissions by getting the IM240 test done (see prices above!)


A lot of people are getting older motors to pass newer ADRs by running them solely on LPG. Its something to think about if you want a dirty big 1970's chev in your Hilux.

[sbyder]

FYI,
ALL compliance workshops should have the abilities to conduct emmission tests. Its part of the requirement for being a RAW.

[CrUZida]

If you mean they have the ability to do a '4 gas test' then perhaps.

But there are only half a dozen places in Australia that can do the IM240 test.
And its the IM240 test that you need to do to pass NCOP approval.