3sge with Beams rwd 6spd

[takai]

Heh, it wasnt quite John.

But it was a Sharpe who clinched Pole and a race win. Pics up soon from the day.

Back on topic, boltpattern for the Silvertop quads isnt anything like the EFI hardware ones. They are DCOE pattern.

[AEhachiroku]

Hmm thanks takai. That means new manifold which is another thing i dont really wanna do. Might stick with the 20v quads and see how they go.

Thanks for all your help people

[Fish]

thanks Takai,

Sory hach should of stated DCOE.

[twentyEight]

The Meridian Motorsport ones are for a gen3 ive already looked at them.

Fish: Do you know if the EFI hardware ones come with the manifold to suit and do they have a spot for a tps? I havent been able to find what bolt pattern they are either

Also ask the guys at Injection Perfection, I believe they do them for the Gen II 3S also...

[oldeskewltoy]

The 6 speed that came withe the SXE10 Altezza is the AZ6. It is the same box (in essence) as the S15 6 speed, the Miata 6 speed and the RX8 6 speed. The only car that seems to have any serious load issues with the AZ6 is the S15. The S15 is the heaviest of the vehicles that use the AZ6 and the SR20DET puts down the most torque of all those same vehicles.

What does all that mean??? Your AE86 is about 300 kilos(minimum) lighter than an S15, the n/a 3SGE has a MUCH lower torque peak than and SR20DET.

and it is torque load... not hp that destroys most gearboxes.....

You should have NO problems using the AZ6 with just about any 3SGE.....

[EldarO]

its not an AE86, its a KE70.

same chassis and similar weights they may be, but use the correct terminology, so you dont confuse people.

Elmo.

[hamgatan]

What makes the Gen3 a better motor?

you mean besides the fact its about 16hp more powerful and pisses off the crappy AFM to go MAP sensor?

[gianttomato]

Talk to RA45Celica. He does a nice manifold and quad throttle kit for the 3SGE. The results speak for themselves - 194 rwkW from an NA 2 litre.

[The Real Roadrunner]

Talk to RA45Celica. He does a nice manifold and quad throttle kit for the 3SGE. The results speak for themselves - 194 rwkW from an NA 2 litre.

is he using gen2 or 3 motors?

cheers
linden

[twentyEight]

is he using gen2 or 3 motors?

cheers
linden

He's using Black Top Beams 3S-GEs...

[The Real Roadrunner]

ahh, way different beasts but more in common with a gen3.

cheers
linden

[Jaemus]

you mean besides the fact its about 16hp more powerful and pisses off the crappy AFM to go MAP sensor?

gen2 3S-GE is MAP as well. you're thinking of the 3S-GTE maybe?

[kingmick]

Hey guys

Im doing a SW20 3sge into my ke70.

Now i was wondering if the 6spd bolts up to the SW20 gearbox? And im also looking at people that have done beams conversions into AE86s before and wonder what tunnel mods are needed?

Also i need to know how stronge they are? The car will be set up for drift and curcuit and hillclimb. Also the ratio would be helpful to.

I have searched but ive found no answers

Thanks for your help

The ke70 is a light car, you do not need a W series box. a 3sge with a six speed behind it will be all the car will ever need for circuit. It is a short wheelbase so it is never going to be good at high speed. Keep it light and with an atmo engine that you can keep in the powerband and you will always do well even on your bad days!

[AEhachiroku]

The ke70 is a light car, you do not need a W series box. a 3sge with a six speed behind it will be all the car will ever need for circuit. It is a short wheelbase so it is never going to be good at high speed. Keep it light and with an atmo engine that you can keep in the powerband and you will always do well even on your bad days!

Thats what my first thought was. But the car will be set up for drift aswell (drift being the main attention) with different spring rates at hand i was going to use it for curcuit aswell.

My main reason was because of the strain that drifting puts on a gearbox with the clutch kicks and hard shifting.

Also I have priced up a few things at work and i will be going turbo as i wont be able to push the power output i want on my budget.

Thanks for all your help
Craig