Paint, How Much?????

[LeeRoy]

I am fairly happy with my paint job on my car. It was resprayed 7 years ago, Is it possible to get a light rub back and a few levels of clear applied or will they want to redo the whole kit and kaboodal.

It probably just needs a buff. Take it to whoever painted it and get them to have a look. If it does turn out to be the clear just thinning out then it will need to be wet rubbed for them to clear it again but that is also less work that a full spray job.

[river]

Hi,

How good are spray painters? Can they match paint well enough to do a small patch or two and blend it into the remaining paint on the car?

At a pinch, to save money, I could get away with two areas that need work and not worry about a full cut-back respray for another few years. However, I'd like to be assured that the car won't look patchy.

seeyuzz
river

[love ke70]

they should be able to blend it, and a full buff will bring it all up looking good. i dont think you will have any issues with patchy work if you get a good workshop.

[Kebin]

I paid around $3000 for mine including paint and thats two tone so two days in the oven.. though i didnt bother with engine bay and door jams etc.

[river]

Hi,

they should be able to blend it, and a full buff will bring it all up looking good. i dont think you will have any issues with patchy work if you get a good workshop.

Even for enamel paint? My car has enamel paint.

seeyuzz
river

[love ke70]

Hi,



Even for enamel paint? My car has enamel paint.

seeyuzz
river

im sure yours isnt the only car with enamel paint and im sure that some of them get into carpark bingles that require panels replaced.
but the place to ask is a panel shop

[kremsra28]

i havent worked wit enamel before, but i think from wat i have seen from some enamels, it fades very quickly and if its faded too far, it would prob be very hard to natch up, as some1 has already said, take it back to the painter and lety them have a look, they will know, or should know (alot of inexperienced ppl paint enamel as its cheap and easy to work wit).

as for wat i said in my previous post bout letting some1 else do the prep work, i should have said it a bit clearer, i wont do a car if the owner does the prep work (unless they really know wat they are doing), as from my personal experience, it will only bit me in the ass, most ppl who want to do the prep work are ppl who really dont know much bout wats going on and only really want to save some coin (whic there is nothing wrong wit saving some coin but you do get wat ya pay for)

i painted a harley for a mate 6 month ags, its a custom marbled candy job, i charged him $1k plus materials, he delivered the tins to me and picked tham up and reassembled the bike himself, and all his bikie mates said it was dirt cheap, it should have cost him around $2k, if not more, and it was 1 of the easiest jobs i have ever done, only spent around 15hrs on the whole job, but ya get wat ya pay for, the guy that said he was budgeting for $12-15k for his paint job will get a job that will blow ya mind away, cant wait for pic (even tho they prob wont gve the job the justice it deserves, like the pics i have of the harley, it looks so much better in life), some ppl wont and cant justify spending that sort of money for paint,but each to thier own.

krem

[river]

Hi,

It was me who is budgeting 12-15K for a paint job.

I know my limitations and spray painting a car is certainly one of them. So, I am budgeting this amount for them to strip/prep the car and do the shebang. They're the professionals and I'll leave it up to thme to do a damn nice job.

I have checked about and 12-15k will get me a top job, which is what I want, as the car is quite rare and will only be used for shows, events and organised Toymods cruises and such stuff. Furthermore, I think that while such an expenditure seems high (and it is), I feel the vehicle is worth it and over time it can only increase it's value. I regard the car as an asset and I budget things with that in mind... to maximise the return on my investment should the time come when I decide to sell it.

seeyuzz
river

PS: However, as an interim measure until I get the funds, I am thinking if it was possible to get two areas of concern fixed and blended. That will not only buy me time until the full respray, but fix a small ding and remove/patch/paint where the driver door mirror is.

[timbosaurus]

Hey River!

I thought our cars came from the factory with Acrylic Laquer? Am I mistaken, or has yours had an enamel respray over time?

[river]

Hi,

I am not sure, as I've heard different stories. When the car was resprayed in 1989 it was done in enamel, but I'm not sure if the original 1973 Toyota paint was acrylic or enamel.

seeyuzz
river

[BE50RY]

i'm a painter by trade, well third yr apprentice anyway. if someone came up to me with your job i would quote around 3000. i would ask u to take it to bare metal and let me do the rest. i cant stand people who want to prep it themselves unless they really know what they're doing.
my advice for you if you don't know anyone in the trade is to get in contact with the local tafe and talk to the painting head teacher. they often look for cars for classes.

just a thought

["Z" UTE]

Hi,

I am not sure, as I've heard different stories. When the car was resprayed in 1989 it was done in enamel, but I'm not sure if the original 1973 Toyota paint was acrylic or enamel.

seeyuzz
river

My '71, and '75 Crowns had enamel from factory. Acrylic is used to repaint areas of repair on enamel painted cars.

Re painting in Enamel, Acrylic, or 2 Pac, should be roughly the same price. Enamel has to bake for a longer period of time, but it is a cheaper paint to buy.

Specify the best quality brand name paint. Your painter will love you, good quality stuff saves time. Do some research, Google PPG,Dupont etc.

cheers Chuck.

[Andrew162]

I've only had one car resprayed, and that wasn't a full respray either, although it did involve the incorporation of a NACA duct into the bonnet which cost extra as well, all up about 5k.

when the engine is in the car and running, I'll be looking around to get some panels resprayed as mine is a right hodge-podge of paint quality. the front bar is new, the front guards are about 90% ok, the doors not much behind the guards but the agony lies with the roof and the rear quarterpanels. "it'll buff out ok" yeah bullshit... one of the previous owners had birdshit right in the middle of the roof which is cracking with age, the sunroof... my god do we have to go there? is there a single ST162 with a rust-free sunroof? barely any to be found these days. and the quarterpanels look like they've either had damage done to them which hasn't been repaired properly, or they've never been taken care of. the boot is fair-to-middling also. fitting up a bodykit to this car is gonna be soo .... much .... fun .... it needs a full respray as well.

[Toy77]

heya,

painting cars sucks.....

it is one of those jobs, almost no one will recomend a good panel shop and even if ya get a good one, the painters move around that often that a good paint job from a shop may not be replicated on the next job.

as for me...
i have had 3 paintjobs -

First i did myself when younger - and realised how much i hate prep work and how big a difference it makes to the final job.

2nd had some rust repairs done and a colour change $3500 quoted, they had the car for a long time car came out looking good - charged me $5000. went to the dispute board and then to magistrate (over blown engine issues) i won - cost me $3500.

but the rust came back - and when i had this paintjob done - the areas they had done were worse than the original metal.

Final paint job - this one was a mission. they gave me an intial quote based on what they could see, but stated it would have to be done on an hourly rate and that i could drop in whenever i like see the car - see the work that had been done and the time listed for having done it.

i was explained their reasoning was that to do a restoration propery is very hard to quote as you dont know what you will find till the paint comes off - then how to repair. if they were to give a firm quote and there was more work - either they have to loose money (no buisness runs this way) they have to charge you more, or they COVER it up, fix it dodgy and keep to the price set.

the guys spent 400 hours on the body work on my celica and it cost me deep in the 5 figure mark.

cheers
stew

[frozenwarp]

Cheers again to everyone who replied, I'm still not at the painting stage just yet so ill just keep an eye and an ear out wile im doing other stuff and hopefully by the time im ready i may have come across a place.

Cheers,
Bradley