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    Default 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    just finished putting a 1jz in a MX83 and there is an issue.

    ive wired it up as per: http://www.thermactor.com/forum/view...ght=dino+flyen

    everything else seems perfect so far, except....

    as i accelerate, i can feel the turbos just starting bring the manifold pressure to zero and bam! its like someone turns the key off for a second. the ecu is clearly responsible for shutting down the engine because i can hear one of the relays click as the engine comes back into life.

    on the road i can trigger this cut at any rpm, hence why i think it is 0 vacuum related. i can also trigger it to cut while free revving on the spot. it takes a much higher rpm though.

    the ecu threw a code 21 before, O2 sensor but didnt throw it after resetting the battery and going for a spin.

    hopefully someone has had this issue and its something simple.

    input/suggestions appreciated

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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    AFM or MAP?
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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    i thought they were all map sensored, but yeh its got a map sensor.

    the ABS light also comes on when driving (different toothed wheel in the gbox) but i didnt think the ABS computer was capable of interferring with the running of the engine (cutting engine to be 'safe').

    under vacuum, the car runs PERFECT!
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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    the problem was evaded (thanks to wilbo666 for help) by hard wiring the fuel pump in the diag box.

    the root of the problem is still unknown. for some reason, the ECU is turning off the fuel pump as boost comes on. ive got the 1JZ fuel pump trigger wire (green with red stripe) connected to the original 7m fuel pump relay input

    any ideas?
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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    i dont know if your running an aftermarket ecu but if you are is the boost cut on? pretty obvious but sometimes it slips the mind.
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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    Hmm yeah sounds like an issue with the COR.

    Does the stock JZX run a fuel pump resistor?

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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    put fuel press gauge on it

    if yr instrantlyloosing press then u have wiring wrong

    had this prob on a 7m

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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    My guesss is it's to do with fuel pump resistor - it's trying to switch to 'high power' and there's no circuit there. Try applying power straight to the relay so it's on all the time, then go for a drive.

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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by BeRad
    i dont know if your running an aftermarket ecu but if you are is the boost cut on? pretty obvious but sometimes it slips the mind.
    stock ECU


    Quote Originally Posted by sideshow
    put fuel press gauge on it

    if yr instrantlyloosing press then u have wiring wrong

    had this prob on a 7m
    ive already established its an electrical issue thanks. putting a gauge on it wont acheive anything

    Quote Originally Posted by mrshin
    My guesss is it's to do with fuel pump resistor - it's trying to switch to 'high power' and there's no circuit there. Try applying power straight to the relay so it's on all the time, then go for a drive.
    i think your on the money shiny. incase you didnt read my above post, when the fuel pump is hard wired in the diagnostic box (Fp ->+B), there is no issue at all. it boosts away and does skids 'n' shit


    is the fuel pump resistor the rectangluar one beside where the factory 7MGE coil is?

    so how can i solve the problem is my next question?

    thanks
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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by brett_celicacoupe
    so how can i solve the problem is my next question?

    thanks
    Wire up the COR really as per factory

    Starter -> COR
    ECU -> COR

    COR -> Fuel pump

    = skids 'n shit



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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    from the description I'd think that maybe the fuel pump resistor isn't plugged in...

    From memory it usually bolts to the drivers side of the bay in front of the strut tower.

    jzx81 diagrams are here:

    http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl0uxv/1JZ...1__diagram.pdf
    http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl0uxv/1JZ...1__pinouts.pdf

    The clicking you can hear is most likely when the ECU is trying to switch in/out the FPR as stated above.

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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    thanks JP,

    i didnt remove the resistor, it stayed bolted into the strut tower and plugged in the whole time i was swapping the engines

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    Default Re: 1JZ-GTE rev cutting at 0 manifold pressure

    i think the problem is found (more thanks to wilbo)

    i had the wrong wire triggering the FPR. i wired everything based on the guides on this website http://www.thermactor.com/forum/view...ght=dino+flyen

    ill rewire as per below (green) tomorow and see what happens

    http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4...dwiringoa9.jpg


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