Validity of reputation?

[oldcorollas]

meh deleted.. said below

[Yian]

and is now posting items in the for sale section sounds fair

I thought club members already have access to the for sale section regardless?

[SeptemberSquall]

I thought club members already have access to the for sale section regardless?

Fair point; I'd overlooked that fact. That doesn't address my query with the rep though.

[SeptemberSquall]

and you PM'd admin before raising it here right? right?

Actually, no; I think this may potentially indicate the rep system the forum is based on and the admins are very proud of has been compromised, and hence posted here for the information of both the admin (all of whom would no doubt regularly check the Forum Feedback section) and also all forum users whom the reputation system affects. Perhaps the greater forum user base could suggest an explanation that I have overlooked. Just confused is all.

[oldcorollas]

i dunno... perhaps he pm'd admins with some valuable feedback and got repped for that? or maybe he has been pm7ing other ppl and got rep for that.... who knows...

he has been a member since day dot, and has been very helpful to many ppl thru the time the club was starting and has been running, but as for the actual rep... either PM admin, or get over it as a member, why would he care what rep he has? it's only non-members that have this fascination with reputation anyways...

\/\/\/ fairy nuff

[SeptemberSquall]

either PM admin, or get over it as a member, why would he care what rep he has? it's only non-members that have this fascination with reputation anyways...

I'm not directly concerned. When I got neg repped for posting "pm sent" in an old readers rides thread of all places, I stopped caring. I do share your amusement at watching many people stumble about in a reputation-mad stupor, falling all over themselves to either give rep, take rep, or winge about rep. Like I said above, more a public service announcement than anything and definately not a vendetta, hence posting here first for public comment. Seems as though there has been some general public interest judging by the posts above.

EDIT: lol at the implication; this thread will only serve to further encourage the contrieved fixation about reputation amongst those users as described above...

[mojo_type]

"it's only non-members that have this fascination with reputation anyways"

yeah
as we dont have our usual cool avatars i kinda distinguish different ppl with their avatars (eg oldcorollas is always the old red corolla and ill recognise it instantly i dont have to squint to see a name)
and we cannot sell anything until we +40

apart from that rep is a good idea i think

but ..... i do think join date on the old forums should of been copied over to new forums or something as all history is lost eg the join date (unless u go back to old forums)
for example the_witzl joined here on july 05 but he was on the old forums since july 2002
he is old school full of info but yet date join makes him sound noobish (haha no offence witzl your a solid source of info)

woah yeh sidetracked
rep yeh

keen to see how this gets sorted

[PlacentaJuan]

i think the reputation system as lost its relevance to this forum; anyone can give rep for whatever reason they like and more often than not will give negative over positive, weather or not the post in question is car related.

by now does anyone really take reputation seriously?

i admit it is a much better idea than the old 'post count' system but i think reputation will only work with some rules so that people cant just rep someone willy-nilly.

ie; no rep without a reason
no rep in general or non-car discussion forums etc

[oldcorollas]

i think the reputation system as lost its relevance to this forum; anyone can give rep for whatever reason they like and more often than not will give negative over positive, weather or not the post in question is car related.

so you didn't read Stitts post saying that of around 2000 rep instances, over 90% are positive??

why do you say that people will more often than not give negative over positive?

i get negatives along with positives, but in the end, the positives have won out.. thats how system should work.. people should continually contribute useful information....

then again, for financial members it does not matter.

as for no relevance due to neg rep being given for non-car threads...
THIS IS A TECHNICAL FORUM
the non-car discusio is meant to be a small part of the forum.
it is not an outhouse (as some ppl are using it now)
if you post like an idiot in non-car discussion, why should you NOT get neg rep??

see, this is a car forum.. if you post in non-car threads, you are are straying away from the purpose of the forum anyway if you make a stupid post in a non-car thread, more fool you

there are rep rules. but they are self managed.
if someone continually reps like an idiot, and you report it to the mods, then something can be one, since they can see what rep is left, by who, from what post, and the comment.
but again, CLUB MEMBERS can see who left their rep anyway

[PlacentaJuan]

yea i guess it just goes to show how serious everyone takes the whole rep system, as it stands at the moment.

i kind of dont expect any admins to do anything about giving 'rep like an idiot' since they contribute to that themselves, which i have seen first hand. (not that i am complaining about that, just trying to suggest ways to improve the system)

i guess that people have lots of different opinions in non-car discussion and maybe wouldnt take that part of the forum as seriously as the on-topic (car) discussion; which would add to the whole rep system being kind of pointless by giving or taking rep just because you dont agree with someone over something trivial.

but thats the way it is set up so we can only do our best by suggesting what we think might be an improvement.

like you said; financial members dont need to worry w00t

[Joshstix]

i think the reputation system as lost its relevance to this forum; anyone can give rep for whatever reason they like and more often than not will give negative over positive, weather or not the post in question is car related.

by now does anyone really take reputation seriously?

i admit it is a much better idea than the old 'post count' system but i think reputation will only work with some rules so that people cant just rep someone willy-nilly.

ie; no rep without a reason
no rep in general or non-car discussion forums etc

Dude just because this is the way you think about rep doesn't mean it's the way everyone does. The vast majority of rep votes have been positive.

I don't see forcing people to make comments as a useful way to get better feedback, when I read through the comments I have to say the blank ones were more useful than probably 15% of the ones that had comments.

The reason why rep can be given for all parts of the forum is that people contribute to the club in a variety of ways not ONLY technical. People should be able to be rewarded for this and conversely if they post rubbish then they should be able to get negative rep for that as well.

Actually having looked over your rep to see where it is your coming from I can see why you think people shouldn't be able to get rep from non car talk. 5 negative responses to one post.

What it boils down to is people get out of it only what people put in.

[Joshstix]

In answer to the original question, ira11y got rep twice from an admin who wasn't originally aware of the 10 rep power.

[RONA]

Hmmm let me guess you got neg rep because you made an ignorant and immature comment in the suicide thread, you deserved it live with it. No I didn't give it to you, but what you said showed little understanding of the issue at hand.

[Joshstix]

Now that I have thought about it PlacentaJuan I think your example is a classic case where rep being used in non technical area's is a good thing. That thread could very easily have become a huge slinging match between you and a bunch of other people who strongly disagreed with. Instead those people chose to use rep to let you know what they thought of your contribution and saved the rest of us from having to sit through a shit fight.

[ndgcpr]

I actually have a question for oldcorollas.

Have you found your reputation not rise as quickly as it did in the past???

I only ask because i believe some people only see the rep system as a way of being able to sell stuff and everything. If you put down some impoertant information with low rep, people may feel that you need rep and give it, where as in oldcorollas case, they see he has over 100 and think "ah he doesn't need it".

Just curious to know if this actually happens as i feel it would...