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    Default Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    Hi,
    I have a twin cam 16 and I'm pondering adding an SC12 and GZE induction setup.
    Let's not worry about management, fuelling and compression yet - please don't give me lectures on the folly of the approach .. not what I need/am after.

    I haven't had time to measure up my friends 4AGZE (I just finished rebuilding the thing with madrolla68) but I'm curious as to whether anyone has bolted the supercharger and induction setup from a GZE onto a big port GE.
    The crank pulleys appear similiar (my twinky is without p/s or a/c) so I'm guessing the supercharger drive pulley may line up with the outer 5 rib pulley on my GE but obviously the alternator is on the other side and needs to be relocated with the GZE mounts if possible.
    Would the block be cast (and indeed tapped?) with the mounts for the GZE bracketry?

    I have used the search function and didn't come up with much .. these are all things I can and will investigate but I wanted to see if anyone else had done a similiar conversion first.

    Thanks again guys and girls,
    Ben

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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    heres some pics of an AE101 GZE block, perhaps you can compare the bolt holes to your GE block..
    http://images.google.com.au/images?g...ie+4agze+block
    which flavour is your block?
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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    many people have put the s/c set-up onto stock 4age's (happens quite a lot overseas). everything on a 4agze will bolt to a 4age, same 'basic' block and bolt boss's. all the brakets are interchangable.
    hardest part would be sourceing all the gze gear seperate from the engine though i would think.

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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    Thanks guys .. exactly the informative helpful answers I wanted! I expected a whole bunch of "it'll blow up" crap.
    Cheers,
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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    change the pistons and there's no difference anyway
    have fun
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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    That's about the gist of it
    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    the pulleys are different diameter (na is smaller) but certainly they do line up.

    and anyway if your running it on high comp na pistons then the smaller crank pulley will result in slightly lower boost which from a longevity point of view probaly isnt a bad idea.

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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    i was under the impression that a gze with a single turbo conversion is the sh*t

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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCarS
    i was under the impression that a gze with a single turbo conversion is the sh*t

    ????? lucky their not talking about 4agte's then
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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooF
    the pulleys are different diameter (na is smaller) but certainly they do line up.

    and anyway if your running it on high comp na pistons then the smaller crank pulley will result in slightly lower boost which from a longevity point of view probaly isnt a bad idea.

    So what belt do you use, any ideas

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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    Quote Originally Posted by madrolla68
    So what belt do you use, any ideas
    how long is the piece of string?


    that you wrap around to check
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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldcorollas
    how long is the piece of string?


    that you wrap around to check
    Unfortunately i was hoping someone that had actually done it and WOULD know if the STD belt or a slightly shorter one would do the job had answered but yes we can do the string bit.

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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    a slighty shorter one is required, i cant remmeber the size off hand sorry but i know for sure the standard one was unsuitable.

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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    There are a few articles around about fitting a smallport throttle to a GZE as it is bigger bore. (ae86dc and tc.org both have it)
    Also recently read about a guy in NZ who put an SC12 on his 20V and kept the blow low with stock pistons and good management.
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    Default Re: Has anyone here built a GE/GZE hybrid?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooF
    a slighty shorter one is required, i cant remmeber the size off hand sorry but i know for sure the standard one was unsuitable.
    it would have to be aron the 5PK965 - 5PK975 length at a guess?

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