Emanage Ultimate a true stand alone??

[DLA11D]

You are using an Aristo 2jzgte???

You will have three plugs at the ECU, the large twin plug with the 10mm head bolt that screws to the ECU and a smaller 40pin plug.

You will need the 40pin plug from the body loom of the car, the larger boxy looking plug from the engine loom contains some wires that will need connecting to the smaller ECU plug.

The smaller ECU plug also contains power feeds, kick downs, tacho's anda myriad of other wires that WILL need connecting.

It sounds like you have the ECU but not the 'body loom' plug...

I'm not sure how tricky these are to source, but it might be worthwhile going full standalone as suggested earlier, as these 'might' pose hard to source and I would imagien it would be a MESS without the correct plugs.

I'll take photos tonight because i suck at explaining stuff clearly.

[BMWTurbo]

I'll attach a coupel of photos I have here at work...

The first one show the harness and it's 'dual' large plug attached and loose ends on the wires cut off the large square plug... If you look closely beside the 'dual' plug you can see the small 40pin plug that you require from the Body loom of the cut.

In the second photo on the 'workboard' you can see the square plug with the short wires from where I cut it from the Engine loom.

These aren't the best photo's but you get the idea and should be able to identify with them.

[DLA11D]

this is what i have to work with.

what loom plugs i have from the motor:


The Aristo ECU:


the EMU adapter loom


The EMU loom plugs straight to the ECU, but the other i only have the yellow plugs from the engine loom that fits into the adapter. So where does the wires from the plug from the Aristo ECu got to?? Hope that makes sense.

[BMWTurbo]

That is correct.. see my post above...

You have all the plugs you require...

The E-manage loom goes dfirectly into all 3 (2+1) ECU plugs... the Yellow Wiring loom plug goes in to the emanage harness on the other side. The smaller plug in the ECU now goes from the ECU into the e-manage harness...

I'm not sure what this is going in to, I've heard some people pull pins from the big block plug on the engine loom you are holding in the first photo and put these into the Cressida factory plug. I would guess you are using this in a hi-lux so you will need to cut it off more then liekly and hardwire it to relays/fuses etc.

There are about 6 wires from this that you need to connect to power etc to get the engine running. You will also need to identify and connect the nuetral start, and starter input wires along with some other wires(that go to the small ECU plug) if you are retaining the auto gearbox?

If you giveme an e-mail address I'll pass on some great information given to me by 2JZR31 Dennis, who did a bit of a write up about what was required. Also see attached my spreadsheet showing what wires from that small ECU plug I connected.

[DLA11D]

thanks dude. I thought i had everything i needed, for the wiring. I am not using the auto, i have done the manual conversion (R154). I would have bought the JZA80 2j if i knew i was was gonna install a 2jz instead of the 1jz had started out with. But i got it at a too good deal to pass up. supper cheap.

Send it to [email protected]

[sideshow]

make sur eu have the ignition harness plug and wiring with the emange

recently looked at one for an install but had to tell customer that the ignition timing plug an dharness was missing

emange dont supply it in srd box you have to order it extra

not sure im the gold one has it in std form

i wish some of these suppliers of stuff actually told you what u get

instead of buying stuff them realising its not got everything

[BMWTurbo]

Baisc e-mange comes with... Main unit and the STD plug that has wires for MAP RPM TPS and power inserted into it.

You will need the injection harness, which in fact is some wire tails that you actually clip into the plug that comes with the main unit. (6-wires)

You might also want the ignition harness which is the second large plug on the unit that contains 12 wires for 1-6ignition feed in and out.

Also for the Ultimate I believe there is a third plug... You need to buy an additional harness pack when upgrading from the blue to the ultimate which contains the third plug for things like speed cut etc etc.

You might also want to log your WB02 in which case you will need ANOTHER harness to interface into the Greddy MAP port.

You may also want the Greddy pressure sensor so you can read up to and above the factory MAP sensor to 30psi (from memory), you will need another harness to connect this also, it doesn't come with it's harness.

To connect to the Profec E-01 you will need an interface harness that uses the Profec's pressure sensor to feed the E-manage's pressure sensor input in piggyback style.

You may also find you want to LOG with the Profec e-01 in which case you will need teh external signal harness

The list goes ON....

[byteme]

it sounds it'll cost almost as much as a cheap stand alone or even an ltx10, ive been thinking of running one on my 7mgte supra but this makes me wonder, is it really worth it ? i dont want to go safc because it just seems so limited

[BMWTurbo]

E-manage Blues can sell for as little as $300 now... That isn't much more then a SAFC, and they have more features...

Ultimates can be had for not THAT much more, and are about as sophisticated as you can get aside from a standalone...

I did some research and should be fitting an ultimate to my car fairly soon...

You have full fuel and ignition control, you even have a trim for each injector and ignition channel.

They get rid of the factory rev limit(raise it) and speed cut. Have knock inputs, Autotune, have a launch control style rev limit(adjustable) WBO2 logging, Ignition retard for auto gearbox gearchanges, and a bunch of other things i haven't mentioned...

The best part is you retain all the factory safety measures and cold start, limp mode settings...

[DLA11D]

Baisc e-mange comes with... Main unit and the STD plug that has wires for MAP RPM TPS and power inserted into it.

You will need the injection harness, which in fact is some wire tails that you actually clip into the plug that comes with the main unit. (6-wires)

You might also want the ignition harness which is the second large plug on the unit that contains 12 wires for 1-6ignition feed in and out.

Also for the Ultimate I believe there is a third plug... You need to buy an additional harness pack when upgrading from the blue to the ultimate which contains the third plug for things like speed cut etc etc.

You might also want to log your WB02 in which case you will need ANOTHER harness to interface into the Greddy MAP port.

You may also want the Greddy pressure sensor so you can read up to and above the factory MAP sensor to 30psi (from memory), you will need another harness to connect this also, it doesn't come with it's harness.

To connect to the Profec E-01 you will need an interface harness that uses the Profec's pressure sensor to feed the E-manage's pressure sensor input in piggyback style.

You may also find you want to LOG with the Profec e-01 in which case you will need teh external signal harness

The list goes ON....

Well i have to order some more parts in the next few days:
So i should get the injector harness.
ignition harness ( i thought this is part the adaptor loom?)
I don't plan on running high Boost.
But i will be running the Profec e-01, i already have the usb for the ultimate to the profec e-01. Is this all I need?

[EldarO]

The ultimates launch control is apparently teh suck.

it does work properly, it tricks the computer into thinking a misfire has occurred, the ECU throws a fit, and cuts the engine completely, before kicking it back into action.

not cool at all...

Elmo.

[BMWTurbo]

Well i have to order some more parts in the next few days:
So i should get the injector harness.
ignition harness ( i thought this is part the adaptor loom?)
I don't plan on running high Boost.
But i will be running the Profec e-01, i already have the usb for the ultimate to the profec e-01. Is this all I need?

With the unit you get one main unit plug. for the e-manage blue to run both fuel and ignition you will need BOTH the injectors harness, which is literally 5 wires with clips on the end and the ignition harness... Which is the second plug.

Is you are using the profec e-01 I believe you will require the harness that goes between the profec and the e-manage to allow the emanage to 'tap' in to the Profec's boost sensor. This is a little three pin style plug... I actually made mine from scratch last time with a dremel and some plugs I picked up from jaycar.. ended up costing $3... but a bit of stuffing around....

You will need a USB cable too I believ between the profec and the e-manage.

This is all from memory though so might be a bit sketchy..

[byteme]

im looking at buying an emanage ultimate very soon, but im curious as to which harness' i need. theres so many.So far i know i need the unit, complete main harness (the one with the three plugs on the back), software and usb cable. is that all i need ? am also thinking i'll get the greedy boost guage (electronic) and splice the sensor into the emu and the boost guage, so i can have my cake and eat it.

[BMWTurbo]

Hrrrmmm Well tried to upgrade from the blue to the ultimate last night, but could get the bloody thing to run. I'm sure there's some setting or jumper I had wrong, but I ran out of time to stuff around with this and had to convert back to the blue so I could drive the car...

On top of the blue's wiring I had to add another 14pin plug, that contained injector outputs (matched the wiring colours of the injector taps on the blue's loom, I also connected the two knock sensors, the vehicle speed intercept and the crank and cam angle position sensor taps.

In the support tool menu i selected 2jzgte and it changed the setting in the unit to suit.

Without having too much time to diagnose it seemed as the the engine wasn't getting spark. I didn't get a chance to spend much time diagnosing though, so it could have very well been it wasn't getting fuel.

One thing that did happen is the engien filled with fuel after I tried to change the fuel to add only, not add and trim. I'm not sure why this happened, but wasn't very impressed with it happening, coils off, plugs out, turn engine over, let sit.. etc etc etc...

So at this point in time I don't have anything postiive to say about the unit. I'll try and spend some time with it over the long weekend and sort it out...

Of note :- There are MANY more settings etc with the ultimate, so it might take a while to get your head around them.

[BMWTurbo]

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/emu...hip/index.html

Something I found interesting... Seems mine is the 'D' model with the changed location of the jumpers, which was confusing.