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    Default single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    I know this might sound like a crazy idea and a real step backwards in performance
    Im looking at doing this on mine (270 head) put my 18RC niki carb on the 18rg
    is there anything around or could be made ?

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    Hi,

    You're right, it is a crazy idea.

    However, to answer your question... I don't know of any manifolds around that would secure a down draught single carby to an 18R-G. I suppose you could get one custom made, but it would probably cost more than a set of side draught Solex and wouldn't have the same performance.

    Why are you thinking of doing such a thing?

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    i think i have at least 2, maybe 3 18RG intake manifolds....
    ...... butt scratcher?!


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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    why oh why oh why??

    Is there a down draught carby that an 18RG will run properly on?? Something that provides a fair bit of evenly distributed airflow...

    The niki carb will probably provide enuf flow for idle... maybe even River stylz RPM... but to feed the hungry top end of the 18RG rev range, you just need the short runner solexes which are more funner. (bitta crap poetry for yas). In the end, you will probably get the shits with not being able to rev, and your engine will get the shits with running lean. Did you know that the carby is actually the restriction point in the 18RC??

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    I thought it might be a crazy idea, I know fiat 124 has them, and I have seen the odd
    single side draught manifold here and there for 2tg and 3tg (a lynx one) to run a single
    solex/weber/delloreto. i was wondering if there was anything like that for an rg.

    why think of such a thing, i know rg's are a hungry motor, remember the movie "piranha"
    my rg is a killer piranha that hasn't eaten in six months.
    the other thing was parts for solex are to hard to get and weber's, parts are more accessible.

    cheerz

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    ask Rodger from these forums about solex parts, he has them coming out of his a-hole.

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    he has them coming out of his a-hole. Cheers, Owen
    that cracks me up ... i will do that. I'm still interested in experimenting with a single
    carb. on a slighty OT subject .. found out corolla ecu's can be used on rg's ..

    cheerz

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    Is there a down draught carby that an 18RG will run properly on?? Something that provides a fair bit of evenly distributed airflow...
    Why would the 18RG be different from any other engine?
    Is there something about it that makes it more picky about even air flow compared to any other engine?

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    Any ECU can be used on an RG... as long as it takes the correct inputs, gives the correct type of injector/cold start outputs, and has the correct air/fuel calculations. I would be wary of using an ECU from a different engine though, as a wrong mixture can give you evil results. You would be better using something like a MegaSquirt or Adaptronic or etc. aftermarket ECU and programming it accordingly.

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    dont know about every one else RG, mine is real finicky.

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    MWP, its called lumpy cams. These engine work best with virtually zero runners (ITBs), so anything hampering the flow will net a bad result... and your engine can run into serious problems in the high RPM range.

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    Hi,

    No. It's just to get the best performance out of the engine is with a pot per cylinder, and not a single down-draught - or any single carby. If you can find a manifold to bolt one to a RG then it will probably work, but it won't have the performance of having a throat per cylinder.

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    IE it will suffer at high RPM... dont listen to River, he doesnt realise that these engines rev past 3500rpm

    So yeah, as I sed, it will idle, and rev to River speeds... but beyond that youve got a grenade waiting to go off. You wouldnt put a lumpy cam in a 351 then put a 250x-flo carby on would you??

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by o_man_ra23
    IE it will suffer at high RPM... dont listen to River, he doesnt realise that these engines rev past 3500rpm
    They can go faster than 3500rpm!!!! I wondered why there were all these extra numbers on the tacho. One day, where no one is around and it's safe, I may just see if I can get it over the magical 3500 mark.

    I'll see if I can push it to 4000!!!!!! <snigger...... snigger>

    But then it goes in for a service and full rebuild in case I've stressed anything.

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    Default Re: single downdraught carb mainfold for 18rg????

    Oh, one day before you retire from driving and pass the 25 to me, you will learn why the tacho has a reading of 7000rpm

    You shouldnt leave that too late tho, might cause a heart attack... and we wouldnt want that

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