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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    From what I could get out of them if they've done one before then they can make and ship but I enquired about a JZA80, which I know they have done at least twice for IPRA and they're like.

    "Uh, you'll need to bring it in, stripped out to the level than you want the cage fitted to"

    Their prices are bare essestial no GST, freight etc, any extras or changes are extra.
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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    AHH K COOL, ive been told aswell if they send you a pre made cage, you have to trim it to size as they leave a lil extra just incase....

    im not too happy thinking to have to hack my dash up.... cant wait to speak to them tho...

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    hey fellas, just spoke to them then,

    all prices include GST, ...but hes not the happiest chappy to speak too...

    anyway i'll be sending off the deposuit for the cage, hopefully be ready end of next week,

    cheers, blake

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    He ok, id imagine its a case of answering the same questions thousands of times

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingmick
    He ok, id imagine its a case of answering the same questions thousands of times
    hey i dont blame him, sound like hes been doing it for a long time too,

    it also includes the widscreen bar, and claims that i dont have to modify the dash,

    also for the cams approval, you approve it yourself to get it logbooked...or something along thse lines he said....

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Yeah when you do the paperwork for the logbook you will get the roll over protection form. A scrutineer will also do a preliminary check of the car & sign the log book when you get it.

    Just a tip that some scrutineers like to check what material has been used to make the cage so its often not a good idea to paint the cage so he can read the markings.
    Ive always made my own cages from bare tube so this might not apply to you as you might get a form from the manufacturer stating the cage specs.

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    blake - have you confirmed if these are able to pass both cams\andra tech inspection and be legally engineered for street use ?

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbos_Toyotas
    primary obejective of a roll cage is to make sure u dont die if you crash your car. this happens by making a shell inside the car shell if that makes sense, that inner shell being near indestructable therefore saving you in a crash,

    A fellow i used to work for had a very quick rx7 that he rolled end over end on the freeway going a bit fast, he insits hed be dead if it wasnt for the roll cage, as that was about all that was left of the car.

    but yes "any" sort of steel welded/ bolted into your car is going to make it a stiffer body.
    Just do not make it a half cage, those things are deadly!!

    If the car is to be road registered, methinks a call to RTA would be prudent. I have not looked into this myself, but I am led to believe cages are on the banned mods list for road cars.

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckLandwehr
    Just do not make it a half cage, those things are deadly!!

    If the car is to be road registered, methinks a call to RTA would be prudent. I have not looked into this myself, but I am led to believe cages are on the banned mods list for road cars.

    cheers Chuck.
    as far as im aware rear cages are legal (so i have been told) and the front are suposed to be bolt in, to be removed for rego....??? i think,

    it will be only a 2 seater aswell, once the cage is in,

    i know the cage is cams apporved, so i would suspect they are andra spec aswell,

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckLandwehr
    Just do not make it a half cage, those things are deadly!!

    If the car is to be road registered, methinks a call to RTA would be prudent. I have not looked into this myself, but I am led to believe cages are on the banned mods list for road cars.

    cheers Chuck.
    Care to elaborate on the half cage being deadly?

    My understanding as far as rego was in line with what blake said above, i'm not interested in removing the front 2 points all the time, nor driving with a 6pt all the time (done this, no fun in a ke20, much head hitting is done when hit potholes), and i want it road legal.

    With this in mind i'm seriously considering a 4pt half cage, i've already messed myself up once on a bike don't want to do it again..
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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Quote Originally Posted by love ke70
    what about ke70's? *edit* are they gonna be the same a ae86?
    with 1g power i think its about time i got myself some safety margin
    and are these engineerable?
    if no one can give a straight answer i might go do some searchy searchy...
    its only really neccesary if you do a lot of hardcore track racing or its compulsory if your car runs quicker than a 10.99 1/4.

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    the only real restrictions on cage for RTA is head space, and ease of access to vehicle..

    from here
    http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/s...3Feb2 006.pdf
    code LK8, startign on page 33

    figure LK14, on page 35, shows the head space requirements.

    they also specify minimum mounting methds and pipe sizes etc and stuff has to be padded..

    it also says, registration authorities may approve a 6 point cage for cars with restricted road access or conditional registration (ie rally cars with restricted road driving permit )

    but that a 6 point is not acceptable for NORMAL road use.. so there is scope to have one allowed for LIMITED road use...... b that doesn't mean you can drive car everyday...

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbos_Toyotas
    its only really neccesary if you do a lot of hardcore track racing or its compulsory if your car runs quicker than a 10.99 1/4.
    well the plan is circuit racing. and being a gumby 18 yearold, i might get a lil excited. if i park my car in the bushes black side up, then id quite like to have a cage

    only a couple of weeks ago that bloke posted up pics of his ae86 doing some aerial work and not landing so cleanly, he was lucky to get out alive i dont wanna be "lucky".
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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    Quote Originally Posted by love ke70
    only a couple of weeks ago that bloke posted up pics of his ae86 doing some aerial work and not landing so cleanly, he was lucky to get out alive i dont wanna be "lucky".
    What you want to die?? mate you to good a bloke to want that!

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    Default Re: bolt in roll cage, do they stifen the body?

    ermmm, you misinterpreted

    i wanna know that if i manage to do some aerial work, and land with the wheels pointing to the heavens then im not gonna be lucky and survive. im gonna survive coz the car is built to withstand such gumbiness
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