3SGE differences?

[takai]

Im betting oil starvation from RWDising it.

[mtp_69_i]

Im betting oil starvation from RWDising it.

huh? .............

[strat]

Im betting oil starvation from RWDising it.

Nope, i had a blocked oil cooler along with an overheating motor. as soon as i took the oil cooler off i gained 15psi in oil psi but the dammage had been done. the sump and sump baffle's, head, oil feeds and returns have all been done to cope with the different angle's of rwd. Plus i was running 23psi on a motor that has done well over 60,000kms, and having too much fun in the rain on friday. Ohh so much fun drifting the kink at mallala in 4th.

[Talasas]

Adelaide Jap don't import much of anything it seems as anything I've ever wanted hasn't been "high demand enough". If they actually SOLD those items there might be people to buy them!

/rant

[edit] a bit late of a post I just noticed...

carry on...

[Mr Revhead]

just one thing, didnt see it mentioned but the auto versions of these engines are different.
in the case of the altezza, the head is different aswell as the valves.
i havnt researched the celicas/sw20 versions as much but they also appear to have the same differences.
basicly, the manual version is better

[Screamn_Sleeka]

basicly, the manual version is better

I thought that was a fact of life?

Good info though, definitely worth getting a real manual and not converting an auto then.

[mtp_69_i]

not sure i get it. care to elaborate on the differences? I would've thought it was simply ecu and possibly mating the drivetrain differences. Why would the go to the trouble of having separate heads for auto?

the heads are definitely different between red and black BEAMS that's for sure

[Hiro]

I have been "toying" with the idea of a RAV 4 motor i think they are 3S and VVTi

The Rav4 never had the VVTi (aka BEAMS) versions of the 3S, the first VVTi engine in the Rav4 was the 1AZ, which was the last of the 2.0L engines before they moved to the 2AZ 2.4L out of the Camry and later Tarago

[aw11man]

Yeah there is a difference b/t the red and black top engines, as far as i know the redtop is prettey much a gen 3 (st205) with intake vvti and higher compression running the manual ecu giving 200ps.

The caldina black top is i guess a gen 4 (st215)with a different head design than redtop, intake vvti and the same compression as redtop with the auto ecu giving 190ps and 180ps in the rav 4 i think. I have also heard that the block is also slightly different but i cant be sure.

The caldina turbo 191kw is the st215 head with no vvti and gen 3 block and some other turbo and intake changes from a gen3 turbo.

Im not too sure about the altezza sxe10 but i think its simular to the st215 head with dual vvti and and a higher compression again abviously in a rwd config and block might be slightly different. 210ps.

I think mr Glen ra45 will know for sure.

[Crazyracer]

Strat, if you're still chasing a 3SGTE, I have a couple.

I have sent you a PM with details

[Mr Revhead]

not sure i get it. care to elaborate on the differences? I would've thought it was simply ecu and possibly mating the drivetrain differences. Why would the go to the trouble of having separate heads for auto?

the heads are definitely different between red and black BEAMS that's for sure

yeah i was suprised too
but thats what they have done
different castings, manual has an extra cam bearing on the intake side (iirc)
has bigger valves
there maybe more iv forgotten, they are definitly different