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    Default MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    im hoping to be able to bolt up W5X to an Mz11 using a manual ma61 gearbox x member.. and then use the stock lenght ma61 tailshaft.... will it work?

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Yes yes it will work.

    MA61 Manual gearbox xmember and front section of Manual MA61 tailshaft (Note: the rear MA61 tailshaft is different I believe, ~10mm longer in the xz1x?).

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    ok cool. time for a wanted add soon i think

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Front half yes, rear half no.

    Rear half on Z1 Soarer is ~25mm longer (never really measured it)
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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    You're about a week too late, I just threw away a manual MA61 tailshaft. Bummer.

    Manual MA61's are hard to come by, but AFAIK a manual RA65 tailshaft should be the same, and they're reasonably common in wrecking yards.

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    isnt the ra65 tail shaft longer than the ma61?

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Shouldn't be.
    Its the same floor pan, the same diff, and the same gearbox.
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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrUZida
    Shouldn't be.
    Its the same floor pan, the same diff, and the same gearbox.
    And the gearbox is in the same positon.

    Btw norbie, wtf did you throw a driveshaft out for?

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    maybe its a different celica im thinking of, i pulled one out of a car at the wreckers and its 70mm longer. I didnt take much notice on the compliance plate of the car and dont know celicas all that well. Now i have a mx73 one, a ma61 and a celica one i will have to take some measurements.

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Have 3 manual tailshafts and an auto one if anyone's interested. One of the manual one's needs a recond though, centre bearings stuffed.
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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Quote Originally Posted by pete05
    maybe its a different celica im thinking of, i pulled one out of a car at the wreckers and its 70mm longer. I didnt take much notice on the compliance plate of the car and dont know celicas all that well. Now i have a mx73 one, a ma61 and a celica one i will have to take some measurements.
    SA63 is longer.

    SA63 also uses the most reward W5X alloy shifter position....the rear half is also longer due to the T series diff...

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    cool thanks for all the help, was hoping it'd be that simple, always good to cut down on fabrication

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Quote Originally Posted by wilbo666
    Btw norbie, wtf did you throw a driveshaft out for?
    Well I was doing a dump run on the weekend and I got a bit carried away, searching for things to get rid of. My collection of broken W58 gearsets is gone too.

    The tailshaft was pretty FUBAR anyway, the uni's were basically stuffed and the whole thing was rusty.

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    Quote Originally Posted by Norbie
    Well I was doing a dump run on the weekend and I got a bit carried away, searching for things to get rid of. My collection of broken W58 gearsets is gone too.

    The tailshaft was pretty FUBAR anyway, the uni's were basically stuffed and the whole thing was rusty.
    dude you didn't bin the W5X stuff!

    Let me know next time you go silly you goose!

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    Default Re: MA61 tailshaft/gearbox X member same lenght as MZ11?

    WTF can you do with a pile of rusty broken gearsets?

    I still have the one in the car, you can have that if you want it (when I get around to removing it that is).

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