RA60, 1GG, Engineering, Regency

[emd-tx3]

hi all,
i have 2 RA60 celicas, one is stock and one has a 1gg, lsd, etc.
i bought the 1g celica from melb (im in adelaide) where it was engineered, but regency are now asking me to have it engineered in SA.

now, my 21rc has died in the other celica, so i could swap everything into that one, and use the sa rego on that, and not have the car engineered, but im not sure of the legalities of that.

or i could swap it and then get it engineered, as the stock shell is in better condition (eg, rust)

or i could try and get it engineered as is.

i've never had any experiece with engineering before and i have no idea of the costs either.

so im really confused at where to go next, and how much it'll be costing etc.

so i was just wondering what people opinions were?

[oldcorollas]

definitely get it engineered... you will feel much happier being pulle dup in a legal car.

call an engineer and ask them to talk you through the process.
outline the situation and see what they think you should do (in terms of other things,mods needing to be done to get it legal)

if the modded car has too much rust.. and you are happy to junk the body... then swap it over, get it approved and keep spares from junked car (and save driveway space)

[MWP]

When it comes to modified un-engineered cars, i wouldnt be worried about the cops pulling me over and getting defected.
I would be worried about being in a decent car accident... if the insurance companies inspect the car, your fucked as they then wont pay out.

Talk to this guy for getting your car engineered in Adelaide, he is good:

Aust Technologies:
- Doug Potts
- 8271 4573
- Foundry St, Goodwood

Make sure you ask him for expected costs when you first talk to him on the phone... he isnt cheap and you might not want to pay that much.
A warning though, your car really does have to be in good shape to pass.
If your just running a 1G-GE, you shouldnt have many problems, but if its a 1G-GTE, he will want bigger brakes, etc and then may want to test them at AIR.

[CrUZida]

Isn't an engineering certificate Australia wide?

Sure there will be some things in VIC that you can't do in SA, but the actually papers that state that the modifications are safe is still a legal document regardless of which state you are in.

You should be able to send that report in to the SA Transport Authorities, and they should be able to tell you, yes, we accept all this, but further to this we need this engineered.

They can't turn around and say that its invalid and you need an SA person to redo it.
Thats a load of crap.

[ZZT231]

VicRoads Engineering Papers are valid for only 30 days...

So you may have to put the car through Regency to make the car legal if the car is registered in South Australia as the VicRoads Engineering paper is now void.

[emd-tx3]

i only have a single page report, which i didnt know, isn't the whole report.

[takai]

When i was goign to transfer the GZE over to SA from ACT they wouldnt have a bar of it. They wanted me to go through the entire engineering process again despite the fact that it was fully engineered in the ACT.

[emd-tx3]

ok, i spoke to the engineer,
he say $300 to come look at the car and discuss everything with me.
he reckons all up about $2000 - $2400

i've also been convinced to swap the motor into the nicer shell. the shell its in now does have quite a bit of rust in the doors, in the roof, and some bog patches in the top of the engine bay, which even if the engineer isnt bothered with doesn't really do the car any good.

so everything is going to be swapped over in to a nice clean shell, with nice clean wiring and all that crap.

i might post some pics up of the rust just for you to see.

[CrUZida]

You guys must have some fucked up system over there.

Speaking to my engineer, his report is valid as long as he is alive.
Once he dies, every contract with him dies too, but while he's alive, its a fully legal document.

[emd-tx3]

^^^ but i didn't have the full report. Although the engineer in VIC said he could do it again for me but he said it wouldn't be vaild cos we have different rules.

[CrUZida]

Rules may be different, but the engineering report covers things like the structural integrity of the new engine/gbox mounts, and if the chassis has the strength to cope with the increase in power and torque.

Things like that are valid while the engineer is still living.

Yes, you are correct in saying that if the report says 17x9" wheels and the largest you can have in SA is something like 16x8" or whatever, then that part is no longer valid.

But in theory things like that shouldn't need engineering, rather just need approval from Regency.


If there is a technical department in the SA Regency then have a chat to them. Tell them exactly what your situation is and they'll give you the low down on what needs to be done.

If you got told from an inspector at the 'pits' that you need this done, need that done, etc, then take it with a grain of salt. Rules can and do change, and it can take a while for these rules to flow on down to these guys.

Also if they haven't dealt with a situation like yours, they may just say the safest thing to cover their ass, rather than referring you to someone who may know what they are talking about.

[emd-tx3]

yeah it was an inspector at the 'pits' that said they needed the full report, although it was the engineer (vic) telling me it wasnt worth him doing another copy of the report.

[CrUZida]

Find out if there is a Technical Dept for Regency.

We have one here, and its those guys that know all the rules, and can tell you whats what.

[emd-tx3]

ok, i'll look into it.

[emd-tx3]

i've had transport SA tell me they would execpt things and then some one at regency hasn't accepted it.
how do i know that won't happen