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    Default 83mm pistons for 4AG

    I've heard that both Nissan CA18 and Mazda BP pistons fit. Has anyone actually tried it?

    Is either piston any good stock?
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Is the block capable of supporting that?
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Apparently 83mm is the upper limit.

    Once again, I'd like to find someone who has done it before I start shopping....
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    I was very seriously looking at going to 83mm for the new engine, but I got nervous as to how thin the bore walls were going to end up so I wussed out and went for 82mm.
    That's the 7A block though, it may well be a little different.

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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Hm, i wonder what the extra displacement would be for 83mm over 81mm...
    Edit: For a 7AGE it would come up to near the 1900cc mark, which interestingly is what Dave Loftus is running according to the entry regs. I wonder if they have just bored it out to 83mm?
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    1682cc with stock stroke for a 4age
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Quote Originally Posted by 7MA61
    1682cc with stock stroke
    Aye, see my reply above for as to why my mind was ticking over that way.

    As for pistons, the CA ones are pretty poor im sure, but the BP ones could be interesting. All depends on how much one could pick up a set for.
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Quote Originally Posted by takai
    Aye, see my reply above for as to why my mind was ticking over that way.

    As for pistons, the CA ones are pretty poor im sure, but the BP ones could be interesting. All depends on how much one could pick up a set for.
    I'd already replied before you edited it, thanks for the explanation
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Quote Originally Posted by 7MA61
    1682cc with stock stroke for a 4age

    Close, it's 1666cc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzilla
    Close, it's 1666cc.
    The website I used to calculate it lied then .
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Quote Originally Posted by 7MA61
    The website I used to calculate it lied then .

    Yep, looks like it.

    83mm x 77mm = 1666cc.

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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Argh not the websites fault the knobhead that comes up on google lists a 4age stroke as 77.7mm
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Quote Originally Posted by takai
    Edit: For a 7AGE it would come up to near the 1900cc mark, which interestingly is what Dave Loftus is running according to the entry regs. I wonder if they have just bored it out to 83mm?
    1851cc by my numbers....
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    i believe Dave Loftus is running an offset ground crank of some sort to get his 1.9L 7age
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    Default Re: 83mm pistons for 4AG

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Wilson
    1851cc by my numbers....
    Yeah, but a lot of the NSW guys run to the closest 100cc to add some intentional vagueness as to their engine setup. Its concievable that an 1850cc engine would be listed as 1900cc.

    Interesting about the offset crank though, cheers
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