6MGE adivice/help.

[Johnzoku]

Just wondering what options are available to me for powering up a 6mge.
Is the 6mge limited because of the rarity of the engine or is it a case of using
5mge aftermarket parts on the 6m?

Ive read that there about 120hp. So maybe with an oil cooler, pod filiter and removal of the restrictions placed on the motor’s intake due to
The emissions.

Could I expect much extra power or would I have to do something more drastic like ITB’s, CAMs to match head work so on.

Any advice would be a great help. I know there’s info on 5mges but im just wondering if there’s something that might be different and hamper my efforts.

In the end ill go a NA 2jz but for now some lower end torque would be great.

[pete05]

With that Hp i have done some research and found the motor is quoted at 190hp at the flywheel but most people seem of the opinion that its really around the 175hp area. I have read that ditching some of the emissions crap also helps a bit and also a good free flow exhaust. the other thing i have noticed on my 5mge and the 6m is probably the same is the throttle body has water passed through it from the radiator and this could be bypassed to also help lower the intake temps a bit and the other thing almost everbody else does is bump the base timing up about 5 deg. The motor is basically the same, as the 5mge except for the extra stroke so you can use 5mge pistons in the motor as well.

[Johnzoku]

from what ive read i think its alot lower than 190hpas well, 175hp at the fly wheel sounds about right (altho my car is no where near that with both an auto and badly in need of a service/tune).
ive also read that they have some piping on the intake side to reduce the noise down since it was places in a GT Curser type car which restricts the flow to the engine as well as all the emissions components. im interested to see this water thats passed thru the throttle body, didnt have any idea about that at all, that could be very useful with the use of an electric water pump.

So if I remove those parts and replace it with a custom intake set up (air pod with mandrel bent piping to throttle body) would it increase the power by much? Im planning on taking the path of ITB’s if this seams to boost power by a little but im still undecided if im going to build this engine up or use a 2jzge instead.

Is there a possibility of using a 1g supercharger on a 6m as well?

[gianttomato]

Just use a 2JZGE. Better, newer. Less than 1000 with loom and ECU.

[Johnzoku]

Are you serious! Wow I thought they would be at leased 2g for one. Would that included ecu, fuse box, etc…?

Humm that sounds like a tasty idea. Ive read that a stock 2jzge matches a stock 7mgte in horse power, is that right?

What mounts would I use to mount it in a mz11? Ive see mx73 1jz mounts for sale on the Cressida forum I think, would that be the way to go with a w58 mounted behind it?

[pete05]

I would say the easiest way to make the power would be with a 1g supercharger but the only easy place to mount it would be where the A/C compressor is. If you used this with a rising rate fuel reg it should make some decent gains in power and be nicer off the mark. With the intake pipe work unless yours is broken i dont think you would see much gain in replacing it, i would just run a nice cold air feed up from behing the front bumper. On my cressida im goin to go down through the bottom of the air box and out to behind the bumper. you could also improve the heat sheilding above the exhaust manifold.

[STR8 2.8]

definately go teh 2j route. its a real waste of time trying to make something of the 6m. you could do much much more with your money than ITB's on your 6m

[Johnzoku]

im guessing your right with that one, the 5m 6m were designed for a cruze touring engine
and are very restricted with the air flow.

ive been looking at importer sites and i only ever come accorss 2jzgte for about 4g to 5g so i assumend that the NA 2jz would be around that price. but 1000 bucks sounds good to me. no change in displacement size and i would probly have to spend the same about to get the 6m to the 2j's power as i would on a conversion.

maybe the new idea is 2jz with itb's... haha

[ViPeR_NiPPleX]

do some research on the old toymods forums about the 2jz-ge. I bought one for my ma61 for a grand. I've previously owned a 5m-ge and the difference is awesome. Dooo eeet

[Johnzoku]

haha, ill have to look for it. is there enough power to slide your MA61 with the 2j in stock trim?

[STR8 2.8]

maybe the new idea is 2jz with itb's... haha

dunno if ed still has it...
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showth...ighlight=2jzge

[Johnzoku]

wow thats nuts. a bit to soon for a purchace but thats something similar to what i was thinking of doing but maybe with velocity stacks instead.

[STR8 2.8]

http://www.toymods.net/forums/showth...ighlight=2jzge

[Johnzoku]

ahh yeah i cant get to that, im only a forum member

[Norbie]

haha, ill have to look for it. is there enough power to slide your MA61 with the 2j in stock trim?

My old MA61 was a sideways machine with a stock 6M-GE.

I agree with the above though, 2JZ-GE conversion is a cheaper and better way to get more NA power. The only custom fabrication required is the engine mounts (easy), the rest is just plumbing and wiring. This also gives you the option to go turbo later using one of the many NA-T kits available off the shelf.