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    Default I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    Hi every1
    im looking at a convertion for my poor old hilux, the 18R just wont take any more.
    ive looked into the 18RG with a W50 box. i need a convertion that is hassel free and light on the pocket.
    Your help will be very appreciated as i am not that good with technical side of things.

    What I Have:
    1982 Hilux 4X4
    RN46 Model
    18R Motor
    L40 Box

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    you are better off with a 22RE motor out of a celica. They are cheap and have a lot of torque unlike the 18rg. the existing gearbox should bolt straight up as well being an R series motor.

    If its just a work truck, i strongly suggest you do this.

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    with the 22re would i have to change the wireing loom?
    or is it posible to change the EFI to a normal carbie.

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    22re is carby or maybe its 22r thats carby haha either way theres one thats carby and is out of the hilux also
    Only the shittiest of wines come in 5 litres

    boosted 3rz hilux *new project* mwahaha
    http://www.toymods.net/forums/showth...940#post134940

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    yeah the carby version is just called a 22R from memory.

    If you wanted, correct me if im wrong, as i am not 100% sure but you might be able to put the carby gear off a 22r or even an 18r onto a 22re if you found a corona or celica with one...

    other choise is the 2.2L 21rc motor out of the RA60 celica..

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    I havent looked into the 21RC it would be just as easy to fit that as the 22R or is there more involved???

    I need something that will get up hills that is good for road use and also those beaten tracks and out of bog holes.

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner
    I havent looked into the 21RC it would be just as easy to fit that as the 22R or is there more involved???

    I need something that will get up hills that is good for road use and also those beaten tracks and out of bog holes.

    nah mate, all the r series bar the 18rg (for some reason i dont think the swaps from 18rg swap to 22r) are the same box and dice to bolt in.

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    I think your right, i would have to change the box to a w50 or similar
    so which would be the easyest transfer to do

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner
    I think your right, i would have to change the box to a w50 or similar

    sorry i meant the sump, for some reason i think the sump is not interchangeable...but the gearbox is.

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    What dose the sump on the 18RG look like??
    Dose it look like the 18R or is it different?
    is it posible to buy one to fit my hilux???
    Last edited by Spanner; 16-08-2006 at 08:56 PM.

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    An 18RG is a twin overhead cam 2 litre, good for a fair few revs, can be a few$ to get a decent one.

    A 22R is a single cam 2.4 litre, more torque down low than an 18RG but doesnt rev real hard, generaly a whole lot easier and cheaper to get hold of.

    As you are looking for torque for off road and bog holes displacement is you friend more than the ability to rev. (generaly)

    The R designates they are from the same family so Bellhousing will bolt straight up, engine mounts and sumps are designed to fit in same chassis so generaly the same configuration.


    http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=309

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    which would you recomend the 22R or the 18RG coz if i looked under my bonnet a seen a twin over head cam motor in my hilux i would nearly cream my pants

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    If you want revs go with the 18RG and drive it like you stole it, if you want lugging ability go with the 22R.

    Personaly in a 4wd I would go with the 22R.

    regards
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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    Quote Originally Posted by Spanner
    What dose the sump on the 18RG look like??
    Dose it look like the 18R or is it different?
    is it posible to buy one to fit my hilux???
    im currently in the same situation as you, the sump is different the oil pump on the 18RG is in the middle of the sump unlike the hilux sump it is at the back to clear the front diff. The bolt patterns are the same but im not too sure if its possible to take the rn46 4x4 oil pump and place it in the 18rg so the 4x4 sump can be bolted up. i havent seen how the 4x418r oil pump looks like yet.

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    Default Re: I need help with a 4X4 hilux convertion

    Gandor
    Oil pump will be the same, just swap your oil pickup and sump over.

    regards
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